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I've owned two. In 5 years there has been one unplanned visit to the dealer, to replace a faulty MAF -- which I drove 600 miles with anyway.
Sit down, shut up, let the adults have a conversation.
Sit down, shut up, let the adults have a conversation.
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Originally Posted by steve c,Feb 26 2005, 11:17 PM
I've owned two. In 5 years there has been one unplanned visit to the dealer, to replace a faulty MAF -- which I drove 600 miles with anyway.
Sit down, shut up, let the adults have a conversation.
Sit down, shut up, let the adults have a conversation.
#203
Who is more likely to be correct here, a kid who swept the floors of a car dealership or someone who has owned them?
Seriously, stop while you only seem this dumb. By the way, the buick V8 dates to 58, not 62.
Seriously, stop while you only seem this dumb. By the way, the buick V8 dates to 58, not 62.
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Originally Posted by steve c,Feb 27 2005, 01:48 AM
Who is more likely to be correct here, a kid who swept the floors of a car dealership or someone who has owned them?
Seriously, stop while you only seem this dumb. By the way, the buick V8 dates to 58, not 62.
Seriously, stop while you only seem this dumb. By the way, the buick V8 dates to 58, not 62.
If he did indeed worked there...
you only had 2 of them (you seemed to have a lot of cars)
but he saw many of them, possibly come back over and over (like i see BMWs that you always defend)
Land Rovers are known to be great off road, but have a rep. for reliability issues.
Sweeping the floors is enough to see the same car roll by every 2 weeks.
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steve c, u are joking if you think land rovers are reliable. yea, your sample size of 2 is really statistically significant.
This is a Honda site, so of course I expect some manner of bias, but then when folks without first hand experience speak, it counts for zilch in my view.
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Originally Posted by steve c,Feb 27 2005, 11:19 PM
Actually, it's quite a bit larger than that. I don't know of anyone who owns Land Rovers who has any issues -- but then every owner I know has multiple cars and one car being out of service is never a big issue.
This is a Honda site, so of course I expect some manner of bias, but then when folks without first hand experience speak, it counts for zilch in my view.
This is a Honda site, so of course I expect some manner of bias, but then when folks without first hand experience speak, it counts for zilch in my view.
you can increase your sample size to include your friends, don't matter. I'll take the surveys of 1000s of people who repeatedly report that land rovers are not reliable over you and your friends.
really, you don't need first hand experience when the facts are overwhelming. that's like saying you can't say that s*** taste like s*** until you eat it yourself. no thanks.
fwiw, i like land rovers. and i'm disappointed that honda is making the ridgeline. i wont be buying one anytime soon.
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I can't disagree with the various reports, but what I have witnessed since the Series II discos onward has been a marked improvement in reliability.
It is my belief that this unreliable perception feeds into itself, any issue is thought of as major. Meanwhile, how many recalls and TSB's have we had since the S2000 introduction? Dozens -- yet because the S2k is a Honda it is "reliable.". Perception ....
It is my belief that this unreliable perception feeds into itself, any issue is thought of as major. Meanwhile, how many recalls and TSB's have we had since the S2000 introduction? Dozens -- yet because the S2k is a Honda it is "reliable.". Perception ....
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Originally Posted by steve c,Feb 28 2005, 01:43 AM
It is my belief that this unreliable perception feeds into itself, any issue is thought of as major. Meanwhile, how many recalls and TSB's have we had since the S2000 introduction? Dozens -- yet because the S2k is a Honda it is "reliable.". Perception ....
For what it's worth, the CEO of the last company I worked for had two Land Rovers and they were constantly in the shop. At one point I thought he kept buying new ones because I kept seeing different ones in the parking lot. They were all loaners, obviously.