PLYRS 3

LOL - that's the problem....you see it as some magnificent "roadster"....

dude, it's just a car.....a cheap $30K car at that....that's a commuter-car price point in canada....

b0mbrman

That it is not. I was just addressing someone who thought gas mileage made a roadster as a primary daily driver no less ridiculous than a truck as a primary daily driver.

But it's up to you what's a bigger misallocation from a weekday driver--all that wasted horsepower putting miles, wear, and tear, on a roadster in traffic, or the sometimes-wasted space driving a pickup to work.

steve c

And worse gas mileage than the Corvette and 350Z, both of which have more horsepower and more cylinders. "Think about it."

What was your point again?

b0mbrman

Again, it's your money, but I'd rather put the miles and door dings of daily driving, etc. on my $4,000 '95 Prelude that wouldn't elicit a tear out of me were I to drive it over a cliff, than on a $30,000 S2000.

Just makes sense money-wise but if you've got plenty to throw around, go for it

And feel free to send me some

[Edit] Playing with the numbers on KBB.com, if I were to add 10k miles to my S2000, its private party value would go down by $1430. And, according to KBB.com, how much would my beater depreciate if I added 10k miles to the odo?

$75

JonBoy

...except carry five people in relative comfort or four of them in extreme comfort, handle "toys" in the back, tow a moderate load, and do minor offroading or bad-weather driving with little to no trouble. It'll also get better fuel mileage than just about any truck while performing (dynamically) a lot better as a daily driver. And of course, it will also carry 1000 lbs and carry secure cargo in its lockable "trunk" if you need actually use it for any sort of work. It will do all of the above "very well"...

But that's nothing, I guess....?

Popeye

Jeremy ,do you foresee a time when AHM will offer a TDI type of option on this product in the future? Or does Honda not view the USDM as diesel friendly?

PLYRS 3

i don't dispute that mileage accelerates depreciation.

but let's look at your example:

the S2000 would depreciate by 1,430 for an additional 10K driven.

what's it costing you to insure your S2000 even though you're not driving it? (i presume you would at least keep theft coverage if it's stored).

what's it costing you to insure your beater?

does an additional 10K on your "old" beater yield higher maintenance costs than by putting 10K on your "newer" S2000? if so, how much?

you need to keep 2 vehicles registered....what are the registration costs of 2 cars vs. 1 car?

if you have payments (lease/loan) remaining on the S2000, you have to make those regardless of whether or not you drive the car.

bomber, there's a lot of shit that can easily out-weigh the $1430...and then some.

b0mbrman

[quote name='PLYRS 3' date='Feb 8 2005, 02:06 PM'] i don't dispute that mileage accelerates depreciation.

but let's look at your example:

the S2000 would depreciate by 1,430 for an additional 10K driven.

what's it costing you to insure your S2000 even though you're not driving it? (i presume you would at least keep theft coverage if it's stored).

what's it costing you to insure your beater?

does an additional 10K on your "old" beater yield higher maintenance costs than by putting 10K on your "newer" S2000?

Diatomic

That cars get better gas milage than trucks. Just because you can find one example where a truck get better epa than a car, does not mean trucks are fule efficient, the exception does not make the rule.

This is the first and last time I will respond to you. Some times you know what your talking about, and some times you don't. But at all times you're just an a$$-hole, and I have no time for people like you.

Keep on trolling.

Chris S

My S2000 gets better gas mileage than my Tundra, but factor in premium fuel vs. reg. U/L, Mobil 1 vs. dino oil, and tire costs (I'll leave ins. premiums out of the equation since that's a fixed cost), and the S2000 is clearly more expensive to drive. It's also a LEV, and as for the comment about being safe for other people, I think the better solution is not to hit other people...something S2000 drivers obviously do more frequently than average, based on my ever-rising ins. premiums.

It's amusing how many people are predicting the Ridgeline's failure b/c it doesn't meet their needs. Remember, they're only looking to sell 50K per year, vs. the hundreds of thousands annually that each of the big 3 sell. That's a drop in the bucket, and all it needs to do is fill a small niche of the market to meet sales targets.