Honda Releases New Turbo Engines
11-19-2013, 05:45 AM
#1
Honda Releases New Turbo Engines
http://world.honda.com/news/2013/413...ine/index.html
2.0L (for Civic Type-R) will have more than 280 hp.
Looks like Honda is going with boost for their next generation of small cars.
EDIT: more info on power output
1.0T - 127 hp / 147 ft-lbs torque
1.5T - 201 hp / 192 ft-lbs torque
The 1.5T may well be the next Accord/CR-V engine with those numbers (both higher than the base N/A 2.4L in those vehicles right now), though I'm betting a lower-boost version of the 2.0L makes more sense. Given the poor reception of Ford's 1.6L EcoBoost (and even the 2.0L) in the Fusion, in regards to both acceleration and fuel economy, I think Honda will learn a lesson and stick with at least the 2.0L for the Accord.
2.0L (for Civic Type-R) will have more than 280 hp.
Looks like Honda is going with boost for their next generation of small cars.
EDIT: more info on power output
1.0T - 127 hp / 147 ft-lbs torque
1.5T - 201 hp / 192 ft-lbs torque
The 1.5T may well be the next Accord/CR-V engine with those numbers (both higher than the base N/A 2.4L in those vehicles right now), though I'm betting a lower-boost version of the 2.0L makes more sense. Given the poor reception of Ford's 1.6L EcoBoost (and even the 2.0L) in the Fusion, in regards to both acceleration and fuel economy, I think Honda will learn a lesson and stick with at least the 2.0L for the Accord.
11-19-2013, 06:08 AM
#3
1.5L makes more sense, given that they're at 1.8L (N/A) now and most competitors are using 2.0L or bigger engines. A 1.0L turbo will feel somewhat anemic, I'd imagine.
The Fit, on the other hand, will probably get the 1.0L turbo.
The Fit, on the other hand, will probably get the 1.0L turbo.
11-19-2013, 06:10 AM
#4
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I was thinking more along the lines of an 'eco', or base model civic. The new Fiesta is getting a 1.0L turbo. Something similar in concept to that would be feasible. The Civic and Fit weigh about the same, so the motor should be at home in either platform.
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11-19-2013, 07:42 AM
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Does anyone have an article how/why high output NA engines can't pass emissions but turbocharged cars can? I keep hearing this but no one has explained how/why this is the case (maybe I missed it). I certainly have nothing against OEM turbo cars, but as people have noted, mileage is usually subpar compared to EPA ratings of MPG due to the fact that people will most often just accelerate part throttle with boost where the engine isn't operating the most efficiently.
It'll be interesting to see if honda can turn out better mileage with turbo cars vs. the rest, because compared to many turbo cars the gas mileage gains over a v6 are moot imo, especially considering the added cost of maintenance on the turbo in the long run.
It'll be interesting to see if honda can turn out better mileage with turbo cars vs. the rest, because compared to many turbo cars the gas mileage gains over a v6 are moot imo, especially considering the added cost of maintenance on the turbo in the long run.
11-19-2013, 07:57 AM
#9
Does anyone have an article how/why high output NA engines can't pass emissions but turbocharged cars can? I keep hearing this but no one has explained how/why this is the case (maybe I missed it). I certainly have nothing against OEM turbo cars, but as people have noted, mileage is usually subpar compared to EPA ratings of MPG due to the fact that people will most often just accelerate part throttle with boost where the engine isn't operating the most efficiently.
It'll be interesting to see if honda can turn out better mileage with turbo cars vs. the rest, because compared to many turbo cars the gas mileage gains over a v6 are moot imo, especially considering the added cost of maintenance on the turbo in the long run.
It'll be interesting to see if honda can turn out better mileage with turbo cars vs. the rest, because compared to many turbo cars the gas mileage gains over a v6 are moot imo, especially considering the added cost of maintenance on the turbo in the long run.
11-19-2013, 08:06 AM
#10
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Does anyone have an article how/why high output NA engines can't pass emissions but turbocharged cars can? I keep hearing this but no one has explained how/why this is the case (maybe I missed it). I certainly have nothing against OEM turbo cars, but as people have noted, mileage is usually subpar compared to EPA ratings of MPG due to the fact that people will most often just accelerate part throttle with boost where the engine isn't operating the most efficiently.
It'll be interesting to see if honda can turn out better mileage with turbo cars vs. the rest, because compared to many turbo cars the gas mileage gains over a v6 are moot imo, especially considering the added cost of maintenance on the turbo in the long run.
It'll be interesting to see if honda can turn out better mileage with turbo cars vs. the rest, because compared to many turbo cars the gas mileage gains over a v6 are moot imo, especially considering the added cost of maintenance on the turbo in the long run.
So... comparing 2 theoretical engines that both make 275HP (a 2.0L 4 cylinder turbo and a n/a 3.5L V6), the 2.0L turbo is going to have better cruising fuel economy while still offering you the power of larger displacement when you put your foot down. Given that most people operate their cars in low-load conditions most of the time, this is going to result in better all-around fuel economy for most people.