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06-13-2008 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Communist_StooK,Jun 12 2008, 07:38 PM
To those who've said Toyota is light-years ( 
) ahead of Honda in hybrid technology, the Civic hybrid has been getting better gas mileage than the Prius in many reports.
) ahead of Honda in hybrid technology, the Civic hybrid has been getting better gas mileage than the Prius in many reports.I have heard hyper-milers on the HCH say they got 50+ mpg and celebrated like they won the lottery. Prius hyper-milers could get 60+ mpg routinely.
My wife's Prius (with a lot of freeway mileage) is getting 48+ lifetime mpg... including 4 cross-country trek. Plus many trips between BA and LA/SD. Now that she uses it for 110 miles daily commute, she is averaging 56 mpg on all highway traffic. And she does not even know what is hyer-miling.
06-13-2008 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by benny,Jun 12 2008, 04:31 PM
Plus, if you read of people getting 70 plus miles to the gallon in one of these things I have only one thing to say BULLSHIT! Driven on the highway with any intentions of arriving at your destination before the wind, you might see 55mpg.
06-13-2008 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Communist_StooK,Jun 12 2008, 07:38 PM
To those who've said Toyota is light-years ( ) ahead of Honda in hybrid technology, the Civic hybrid has been getting better gas mileage than the Prius in many reports.
) ahead of Honda in hybrid technology, the Civic hybrid has been getting better gas mileage than the Prius in many reports.
06-14-2008 | 07:15 PM
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Car & Driver had a long term test on a previous gen Prius of over 6 years, & has something like 120,000+ miles & it was still running like a champ.
If I ever did drive a Prius past the battery warranty, & needed to get a new set (assuming it's out of warranty), I would probably just spend the $10K on the new Li-Ion system that several aftermarket companies are offering now. They replace the NiMH batteries with Li-ion & the car can get 100+ mpg.
If I ever did drive a Prius past the battery warranty, & needed to get a new set (assuming it's out of warranty), I would probably just spend the $10K on the new Li-Ion system that several aftermarket companies are offering now. They replace the NiMH batteries with Li-ion & the car can get 100+ mpg.
06-14-2008 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fanman,Jun 14 2008, 07:15 PM
Car & Driver had a long term test on a previous gen Prius of over 6 years, & has something like 120,000+ miles & it was still running like a champ.
If I ever did drive a Prius past the battery warranty, & needed to get a new set (assuming it's out of warranty), I would probably just spend the $10K on the new Li-Ion system that several aftermarket companies are offering now. They replace the NiMH batteries with Li-ion & the car can get 100+ mpg.
If I ever did drive a Prius past the battery warranty, & needed to get a new set (assuming it's out of warranty), I would probably just spend the $10K on the new Li-Ion system that several aftermarket companies are offering now. They replace the NiMH batteries with Li-ion & the car can get 100+ mpg.
One is not even in production... eDrive.
The other costs $24k.... HybridsPlus.
The $10k one you are describing is Hymotion, right? They are just adding a piggie back battery to the factory batteries. If the factory batteries died, then that is it.
06-15-2008 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by marthafokker,Jun 14 2008, 11:31 PM
You mean those magazine drivers driving the Prius like Al Gore 3?
The Toyota/Ford design is 'lightyears' better because it is considered 'full-hybrid' (still a parallel hybrid, not a series hybrid like the Volt), where as IMA is considered as 'mild-hybrid'. IMA is a lot better mild-hybrid design, but still mild. That is the reason why no aftermarket is doing a plugin version on IMA. And the same reason that Honda has no plans to build a plugin either.