HONDA CANCELS NEW NSX!
12-17-2008, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Dec 17 2008, 12:52 PM
Well, Nissan has pretty much had a sports car in its line up for the past 50 years. Honda, only 10, since the S2000 is the only badged sports car here in the States - you can say 20 if you count the NSX as a Honda.
Nissan's Z has a long history here in the States:
240
260
280
300
300 gen2
350
now 370
Nissan has a long history of sports cars besides the Z cars, and having owned a Z, I can say it was just as reliable as my S, all things considered. Nissan is also big into motorsports in Japan - more so than Honda, which concentrated more on F1 only. To say Honda is the most motorsport oriented doesn't really say much about whether or not it made good sports cars.
Honda isn't really a company that does sports cars. It does econo cars, and that's its bread and butter. Shigeru Uehara was responsible for the NSX and S2000, and he's gone from Honda now. I suspect there are no more Shigeru Ueharas in Honda, so no more sports cars from Honda.
Honda canceling the NSX replacement isn't a shock to me, its been on and off the books for years now. Its never been as serious as Toyota or Nissan when it comes to sports cars, and that's the culture we're seeing now. Honda is an engine company and it wants to build efficient engines and put those in cars, not necessarily powerful engines in sports cars.
Nissan's Z has a long history here in the States:
240
260
280
300
300 gen2
350
now 370
Nissan has a long history of sports cars besides the Z cars, and having owned a Z, I can say it was just as reliable as my S, all things considered. Nissan is also big into motorsports in Japan - more so than Honda, which concentrated more on F1 only. To say Honda is the most motorsport oriented doesn't really say much about whether or not it made good sports cars.
Honda isn't really a company that does sports cars. It does econo cars, and that's its bread and butter. Shigeru Uehara was responsible for the NSX and S2000, and he's gone from Honda now. I suspect there are no more Shigeru Ueharas in Honda, so no more sports cars from Honda.
Honda canceling the NSX replacement isn't a shock to me, its been on and off the books for years now. Its never been as serious as Toyota or Nissan when it comes to sports cars, and that's the culture we're seeing now. Honda is an engine company and it wants to build efficient engines and put those in cars, not necessarily powerful engines in sports cars.
12-17-2008, 12:41 PM
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Yes, the 240SX, the Skylines that were Japan only, not to mention all the hopped up fwd cars. On the Z alone though, Nissan shows a strong history as being a sports car maker.
12-17-2008, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Dec 17 2008, 02:52 PM
....Honda, only 10, since the S2000 is the only badged sports car here in the States - you can say 20 if you count the NSX as a Honda.....
Originally Posted by Saki GT,Dec 17 2008, 02:52 PM
Nissan has a long history of sports cars besides the Z cars, and having owned a Z, I can say it was just as reliable as my S, all things considered.
Honda > Nissan. Period
no individual anecdotes, just studies across hundreds if not thousands of owners. [QUOTE=Saki GT,Dec 17 2008, 02:52 PM][B]Nissan is also big into motorsports in Japan - more so than Honda, which concentrated more on F1 only.
12-17-2008, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Dec 17 2008, 03:41 PM
Yes, the 240SX, the Skylines that were Japan only, not to mention all the hopped up fwd cars. On the Z alone though, Nissan shows a strong history as being a sports car maker.
Honda > Nissan (again)
Please don't misunderstand me, I like Nissans (but the pre-Renault Nissan) and Princes. And have owned 4 over the years and can tell you that the Hondas I've owned (also 4 over the years, currently still own 2) pwn all over them.
12-17-2008, 01:12 PM
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You're making pointless points - if you want reliability, buy an Accord - we're talking sports cars and the culture of the company.
End of the day today:
Honda sports cars:
S2000
Nissan sports cars:
GT-R
370Z
G37 coupe
If you go back 50 years, you can count all Honda's sports cars on one hand. Honda is not a sports car company. The fact that it canned the NSX replacement kind of proves that.
End of the day today:
Honda sports cars:
S2000
Nissan sports cars:
GT-R
370Z
G37 coupe
If you go back 50 years, you can count all Honda's sports cars on one hand. Honda is not a sports car company. The fact that it canned the NSX replacement kind of proves that.
