HONDA CANCELS NEW NSX!
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Originally Posted by ZDan,Dec 17 2008, 09:56 AM
I'd rather Honda do a successor that's more Lotus Elise than Corvette. Another overpriced/overwrought/overWEIGHT megasuperubercar would have meant nothing to me.
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Originally Posted by Malloric,Dec 17 2008, 10:54 AM
Funny coming from someone driving a prechewed electric assisted mush steering power ABS Honda with a fuel injected engine and some of that funny variable cam crap for nancy boys who can't handle a bit of rough idle.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Dec 17 2008, 10:56 AM
GT-r is auto only, but I think the NSX replacement was going to be auto-only as well. Also, The rev match can be turned off with a button in the 370Z - Nissan has stayed more true to sports cars than any other Japanese manufacturer.
Personally, I'm waiting for the 370Z convertible. If it doesn't look as lame as the 350, it could be a great S2000 replacement.
Personally, I'm waiting for the 370Z convertible. If it doesn't look as lame as the 350, it could be a great S2000 replacement.
Nissan's GT-R is an '09 model. Infiniti doesn't make sports cars, they have GT's (G35/37 coupes have backseats... and are pig heavy.. not exactly sportscars by any stretch).
BTW, I know the rev-match can bet turned off, but surely that "feature" adds to the weight and complexity of the 370Z.
Nissan which is historically less reliable than Honda (or Toyota for that matter) shouldn't be making complicated cars with that kind of track record/history.
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Originally Posted by OverBooster,Dec 17 2008, 02:13 PM
Exactly. Another high priced supercar would have meant little more than a car for most people on this forum to drool over owning and then waiting 5-10 years in order to purchase a used one. By that time, it will be another out of date supercar.
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I didn't even believe Honda was going to make it in the first place, let alone be competitive in this market environment. If they were planning to debut it in 2010, the vehicle should've already absorbed a lot of R&D costs at they should be past the point of no return. Of course, I'm just speculating with no real credible source.
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect,Dec 17 2008, 12:46 PM
I didn't even believe Honda was going to make it in the first place, let alone be competitive in this market environment. If they were planning to debut it in 2010, the vehicle should've already absorbed a lot of R&D costs at they should be past the point of no return. Of course, I'm just speculating with no real credible source.
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Originally Posted by nfty,Dec 17 2008, 04:25 PM
I would say Honda has stayed more true to sportscars than any other manufacturer. (S2000 and NSX til '05). ... I think Honda was the most motorsport oriented company out of the JDM big three.
Nissan's GT-R is an '09 model. Infiniti doesn't make sports cars, they have GT's (G35/37 coupes have backseats... and are pig heavy.. not exactly sportscars by any stretch).
Nissan's GT-R is an '09 model. Infiniti doesn't make sports cars, they have GT's (G35/37 coupes have backseats... and are pig heavy.. not exactly sportscars by any stretch).
Nissan's Z has a long history here in the States:
240
260
280
300
300 gen2
350
now 370
Nissan has a long history of sports cars besides the Z cars, and having owned a Z, I can say it was just as reliable as my S, all things considered. Nissan is also big into motorsports in Japan - more so than Honda, which concentrated more on F1 only. To say Honda is the most motorsport oriented doesn't really say much about whether or not it made good sports cars.
Honda isn't really a company that does sports cars. It does econo cars, and that's its bread and butter. Shigeru Uehara was responsible for the NSX and S2000, and he's gone from Honda now. I suspect there are no more Shigeru Ueharas in Honda, so no more sports cars from Honda.
Honda canceling the NSX replacement isn't a shock to me, its been on and off the books for years now. Its never been as serious as Toyota or Nissan when it comes to sports cars, and that's the culture we're seeing now. Honda is an engine company and it wants to build efficient engines and put those in cars, not necessarily powerful engines in sports cars.
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Originally Posted by Onehots2k,Dec 17 2008, 04:50 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Didnt Honda say it was pure aesthetics they didnt agree on and was still working out? Maybe they were waiting on an excuse to axe it(GTR..cough).
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Dec 17 2008, 12:52 PM
Its never been as serious as Toyota.... when it comes to sports cars