GM vs Honda
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Originally Posted by sw05s2k,Jan 11 2006, 03:38 PM
Something would be seriously wrong if GM didn't sell more cars than Honda, they have over 13 nameplates worldwide compared to Honda's 2. Be realistic...
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turning radius - like an oil tanker, my Tundra pickup drove much better around corners everywhere in fact.
But for the hell of it I will indulge your overtly made up crap:
4 months later the horn broke - GM tech said it happens all the time with these trucks.
rattles - after 6 months there were so many rattles in this truck you would need a new truck to fix them - every day a new rattle.
doors filling with water - see GM forgot to have proper drain plugs put in and when we installed an aftermarket stereo 3 inches of water were sitting in the bottom of the doors
And don't get me started about the cheap General Tires, and crap OEM junk they put on this truck. What a piece of crap.
Employee Discounting - great idea give everyone the lowest price on your vehicles so you can screw everyone driving around in one of your used vehicles.
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Jan 11 2006, 12:36 PM
I don't think my job is going anywhere either.
bean counters are ALWAYS safe....they can always get a job...if not company A, then company B.
(i am one too - entertainment specialist)
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Originally Posted by PLYRS 3,Jan 11 2006, 05:17 PM
everyone needs an accountant...
bean counters are ALWAYS safe....they can always get a job...if not company A, then company B.
(i am one too - entertainment specialist)
bean counters are ALWAYS safe....they can always get a job...if not company A, then company B.
(i am one too - entertainment specialist)
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Originally Posted by aklucsarits,Jan 11 2006, 03:09 PM
What happens when accountants in India, China, Mexico, Brazil, etc start getting educated and certified in US accounting practice and the accounting jobs start to get sent offshore because they get paid 1/8 of what a US accountant would have to get paid?
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Originally Posted by aklucsarits,Jan 11 2006, 03:09 PM
What happens when accountants in India, China, Mexico, Brazil, etc start getting educated and certified in US accounting practice and the accounting jobs start to get sent offshore because they get paid 1/8 of what a US accountant would have to get paid?
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B) The Sarbanes-Oxley act has made CEOs and other upper management types VERY nervous, because it potentially can tie accounting "irregularities" to criminal proceedings, jail time, etc. How are you gonna hold some dude in India to the level where you trust him with your LIFE when you sign off on your company's financial statements? You aren't.
C) The big four public firms travel around and audit the financials for publicly held firms, and attest to their material accuracy for investors and the SEC. How is an Indian firm going to do that?
D) If you, personally, need advice on how to structure your retirement, run your small business, file your taxes, etc, how are you going to get the reassurance that someone in India will complete everything correctly and stand behind his work, and be liable for it? There are accountant malpractice suits if they royally screw up your returns, hard to sue a guy in India.
E) Accountants are the ones in a company who suggest ways to cut costs...are they going to say "If you hired Habib instead of me, you could save $153k/yr"?
The main things are liability and level of trust. Most people, when they think of outsourcing, think of talking to an unintelligible person overseas on the phone when they can't get their computer to work. They aren't likely to trust that same guy to prepare forms that, if prepared incorrectly, could land them with extreme fines and penalties, or in jail. It just isn't going to happen.
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What happens when accountants in India, China, Mexico, Brazil, etc start getting educated and certified in US accounting practice and the accounting jobs start to get sent offshore because they get paid 1/8 of what a US accountant would have to get paid?
It's not so much that the resources were bad as much as the return on investment was never nearly as good as it seemed because often you ended up having to rewrite code that was written to spec (literally -- I've seen the world null inserted into fields where the spec called for null) -- but was just that -- written to spec without any critical thinking applied.
We have seen a similar backlash against the number 2 offshoring target, customer support.
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Steve C,
The Tundra's turning circle is 44.9 ft for access cab, GMC Canyon access cab is 44.3ft, and the truck that replaced the Canyon, a Toyota Tacoma access cab is 40.7ft. Those are figures off the Toyota/GMC websites and while I might of been mistaken on spec, driving perception is another thing (you were obviously comparing the much larger Tundra Crew Cab to the tiny Canyon Crew Cab). The Tundra also happens to be a lot wider, and a bit longer, than the Canyon, but a much larger vehicle overall.
Bottom line is that GM is in trouble and my overall perception of the vehicle was bad.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe millions of other consumers voting with their wallets are wrong. Maybe doors that have 3 inches of play in them after a few months is ok. Maybe selling their new cars at huge discounts across the board, or selling GMC Jimmy's at 50% off when their model is towards the end of it's lifecycle is good business.
Maybe Toyota and Honda fanboys on sites like this are ruining the poor General's reputation.
I agree that 1 bad experience with a company doesn't make a company bad. I'm just not interested in giving the General any of my cash.
Sincerely,
The Liar
P.S. The Canyon hasn't had a good rating by any magazine and is usually at the bottom of the reliability ratings. When any magazines do comparison tests the GMC Canyon usually ends up right at the bottom. Take a Honda Ridgeline or Tacoma for a drive, then go take a Canyon for a drive! Or are you only a spec sheet man?
The Tundra's turning circle is 44.9 ft for access cab, GMC Canyon access cab is 44.3ft, and the truck that replaced the Canyon, a Toyota Tacoma access cab is 40.7ft. Those are figures off the Toyota/GMC websites and while I might of been mistaken on spec, driving perception is another thing (you were obviously comparing the much larger Tundra Crew Cab to the tiny Canyon Crew Cab). The Tundra also happens to be a lot wider, and a bit longer, than the Canyon, but a much larger vehicle overall.
Bottom line is that GM is in trouble and my overall perception of the vehicle was bad.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe millions of other consumers voting with their wallets are wrong. Maybe doors that have 3 inches of play in them after a few months is ok. Maybe selling their new cars at huge discounts across the board, or selling GMC Jimmy's at 50% off when their model is towards the end of it's lifecycle is good business.
Maybe Toyota and Honda fanboys on sites like this are ruining the poor General's reputation.
I agree that 1 bad experience with a company doesn't make a company bad. I'm just not interested in giving the General any of my cash.
Sincerely,
The Liar
P.S. The Canyon hasn't had a good rating by any magazine and is usually at the bottom of the reliability ratings. When any magazines do comparison tests the GMC Canyon usually ends up right at the bottom. Take a Honda Ridgeline or Tacoma for a drive, then go take a Canyon for a drive! Or are you only a spec sheet man?
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