GM too stupid to build good hybrids..
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GM too stupid to build good hybrids..
Topic title is just a joke-I'm not really a GM-hater..
But this is a link to an article about GM holding a competition to re-engineer the Equinox to reduce gas consumption. Rose-Hulman, one of the colleges involved, is my old school.
http://www.tribstar.com/articles/200...ews/news04.txt
But this is a link to an article about GM holding a competition to re-engineer the Equinox to reduce gas consumption. Rose-Hulman, one of the colleges involved, is my old school.
http://www.tribstar.com/articles/200...ews/news04.txt
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Haha, do you knwo about the Chevrolet Silverado hybrid? Unlike the parallel and series system used by Honda and Toyota, the Silverado just shuts off its engine at stops. Then, it has an alternate battery for airconditioning, headlights, etc. (in other words, no electric motor). The mileage from engine shut off increases by 1-2 mpg (to 18 mpg, I believe), and there's no improvement in emissions. I read a review on it on a hybrid website, and it got harsh reviews! That's like a Christian website saying a Veggie Tales movie was boring.
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other words, no electric motor
I believe GM is using Toyota's first or second generation hybrid system in upcoming GM hybrids.
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Toyota wants to licence their system, it'll become like "Intel Inside" of the hybrid car world.
Makes sense to me, If I was GM any association with honda or Toyota is a good thing. I mean most people think a Honda engine in a Saturn is better than a GM engin. Right or wrong that's what most people think.
Makes sense to me, If I was GM any association with honda or Toyota is a good thing. I mean most people think a Honda engine in a Saturn is better than a GM engin. Right or wrong that's what most people think.
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Originally Posted by rai,Jun 6 2005, 01:02 PM
Toyota wants to licence their system, it'll become like "Intel Inside" of the hybrid car world.
Makes sense to me, If I was GM any association with honda or Toyota is a good thing. I mean most people think a Honda engine in a Saturn is better than a GM engin. Right or wrong that's what most people think.
Makes sense to me, If I was GM any association with honda or Toyota is a good thing. I mean most people think a Honda engine in a Saturn is better than a GM engin. Right or wrong that's what most people think.
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Originally Posted by rai,Jun 6 2005, 12:02 PM
I mean most people think a Honda engine in a Saturn is better than a GM engin. Right or wrong that's what most people think.
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Good luck with the project. The Equinox is on my short list for winter beater, but I went to their board and most are really upset with gas milage. Some are getting as low as 13 (probably leadfoots) but most are not gettting near the 25 mpg highway claim. If it actually delivered that on a consistant basis I would possibly buy one as it is rated high enough to tow my fibergalss Sea Ray.
Outback turbo is another possibility but they guys on that board claim they are getting 18-20 real world milage and that is not too much better.
In the contest does changing final drive ratio count or does it have to be technological innovations?
Outback turbo is another possibility but they guys on that board claim they are getting 18-20 real world milage and that is not too much better.
In the contest does changing final drive ratio count or does it have to be technological innovations?
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Originally Posted by Grimace,Jun 6 2005, 10:05 AM
Hopefully they work out the bugs before they try to start selling it. Prius is under investigation by the gub-ment.
Another US Govt passing mis-info to the public.
This was a known issue for many months. And Toyota has been reflashing the ECUs when customer comes in for service. This was only affected cars from 04-early 05.
There are only 33 documented cases out of 88k sold!!!!
This is just another scare tactic to try to make the Prius a bad car.
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Originally Posted by no_really,Jun 6 2005, 10:17 AM
90% of statistics are made up on the spot.
As far as Toyota licensing hybrid stuff out, it only makes pure sense. Residuals and renewables baby.