GM Quality
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"GM leads the industry in product recalls, having called in 2 million vehicles in April, and another 804,000 units last month...."
....and I distinctly remember having arguments with people and being called a "fanboi" for making comments about Honda quality being better along with about every other Japanese auto maker than the likes of some American companies. Hmm..... I guess stats lie too though.
....and I distinctly remember having arguments with people and being called a "fanboi" for making comments about Honda quality being better along with about every other Japanese auto maker than the likes of some American companies. Hmm..... I guess stats lie too though.
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To back up what rai said, we've already gone over this a thousand times.
And nobody called you specifically a fanboi, least of all because you liked Japanese cars.
And nobody called you specifically a fanboi, least of all because you liked Japanese cars.
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Only GM vehicle I would take a chance on is the Z06. Sorry, too many bad experiences.
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Another point; recalls are generally safety related. The real story is often found in little publicised TSB's.
Your attempt to draw reliability statistics from recall numbers is flawed.
Your attempt to draw reliability statistics from recall numbers is flawed.
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Very flawed analysis, Dark Sub Rosa. You neglect to mention that GM has a very large portion of the market. In addition, a lot of Japanese manufacturers prefer to hide potential defects and issue quiet TSB's versus doing a public recall.
I applaud GM for doing the RIGHT thing and fixing any problems that surface, unlike some other foreign manufacturers.
P.S. You are still a fanboi.
I applaud GM for doing the RIGHT thing and fixing any problems that surface, unlike some other foreign manufacturers.
P.S. You are still a fanboi.
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can't resist....
I'm not sure if anyone reads (or believes) Consumer Reports, but, that magazine consistently (for the many years I've been reading it) notes additional electrical, brakes, body integrity, and power equipment problems for MANY of GMs products. For example - take a close look at the Corvette. ...and the survey says "more than 15% have electrical probems on a 3 year old 'vette".... The sky's the limit...just how much "more" I wonder?
Hell, to be fair, those surveys only rate the S2000 as being "average" in reliabilty....down from Honda's usual "much better than average" standing.
I can imagine there are folks on this web site that will be quick to call the publishers of CR and the hundreds of thousands of surveyed households "fanbois" / "fangurls".
Just not too sure I'd agree with them...
While American auto manufacturing HAS improved of late (and, I sincerely hope it continues in that direction), the fundamental problem seems to be QUALITY beyond the 3 year-old mark for much of GMs product line.
Having said the above...I'll readily admit the new C6, and, in particular, the Z06 is certainly cause for excitement. At the moment, however, it is the ONLY GM product I'd seriously consider....yes, that includes Cadillac's(?) equivalent.
my .02....
I'm not sure if anyone reads (or believes) Consumer Reports, but, that magazine consistently (for the many years I've been reading it) notes additional electrical, brakes, body integrity, and power equipment problems for MANY of GMs products. For example - take a close look at the Corvette. ...and the survey says "more than 15% have electrical probems on a 3 year old 'vette".... The sky's the limit...just how much "more" I wonder?
Hell, to be fair, those surveys only rate the S2000 as being "average" in reliabilty....down from Honda's usual "much better than average" standing.
I can imagine there are folks on this web site that will be quick to call the publishers of CR and the hundreds of thousands of surveyed households "fanbois" / "fangurls".
Just not too sure I'd agree with them...
While American auto manufacturing HAS improved of late (and, I sincerely hope it continues in that direction), the fundamental problem seems to be QUALITY beyond the 3 year-old mark for much of GMs product line.
Having said the above...I'll readily admit the new C6, and, in particular, the Z06 is certainly cause for excitement. At the moment, however, it is the ONLY GM product I'd seriously consider....yes, that includes Cadillac's(?) equivalent.
my .02....