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Old 06-24-2006, 08:33 AM
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depends on where you live and what kind of income we're talking about. in SoCal, your single income needs to be about $100k/yr if you're even thinking about starting a family
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Originally Posted by vinsanity,Jun 24 2006, 08:33 AM
depends on where you live and what kind of income we're talking about. in SoCal, your single income needs to be about $100k/yr if you're even thinking about starting a family
then how the the hell does the majority of the popluation in SoCal get by? $100K/yr for a single wage earner is in what percentile there? I'd imagine 99% or higher. Only a sliver of the population there make that much with TWO earners.

The $100K number you gave is necessary to live in a nice neighborhood, drive nice cars, eat nice food, etc. You'd need that much to live in semi-luxury, but not get by.
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Originally Posted by steven975,Jun 24 2006, 01:31 PM
then how the the hell does the majority of the popluation in SoCal get by? $100K/yr for a single wage earner is in what percentile there? I'd imagine 99% or higher. Only a sliver of the population there make that much with TWO earners.

The $100K number you gave is necessary to live in a nice neighborhood, drive nice cars, eat nice food, etc. You'd need that much to live in semi-luxury, but not get by.
Median household income in California (2003 government stats) is $50,220. That is higher than most states but lower than several. The highest is NJ at $58,588 and the lowest is WV at $31,008.
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[QUOTE=steven975,Jun 24 2006, 11:31 AM] then how the the hell does the majority of the popluation in SoCal get by?
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Originally Posted by vinsanity,Jun 24 2006, 03:48 PM
I don't know the exact stats for single earners, but I'm pretty sure that $100k is the avarage household income (for Orange County, at least...but since L.A. county is more 'polarized', I don't think it would be much less). so I suppose you could get by on less, but $100k is right around average

oh, and $100k isn't that out of reach if you're on the right career path
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Orange County has 34 cities

Average income:
1990 - $63,478
2003 - $72,985

Per capita income: $39,624

Average house price:
1990 - $282,058
2003 - $428,000
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Originally Posted by cdelena,Jun 24 2006, 03:14 PM
Facts

Orange County has 34 cities

Average income:
1990 - $63,478
2003 - $72,985
are these for individuals or households?
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Originally Posted by vinsanity,Jun 24 2006, 06:11 PM
are these for individuals or households?
household
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ah...well 73 is kinda close to 100, isn't it?
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[QUOTE=Chris Stack,Jun 23 2006, 10:04 PM] People no longer WANT to get by on one earner, because they "need" their 2 new $30k cars, their flat-screen TVs with satellite hookups, their fast food 8 times a week, their $50 cell phone plans and $200 phones, etc.

The standard of living has gotten so high for all but the absolute poorest people (homeless) that they have long ago forgotten the difference between "need" and "want."
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some interesting price facts:

1966:

Gallon of Gasoline = .32 cents
1 dozen eggs = .60 cents
1 gallon Milk = .99 cents
1 first class stamp = .05 cents



2006:
Gallon of gasoline = 2.90
1 dozen eggs = 1.20
1 gallon milk = 3.25
1 first class stamp = .39 cents

Gasoline is now 9 times more expensive than it was 40 years ago.
IF eggs had gone up the same they would cost 5.40 a dozen
IF milk had gone up the same it would cost 8.91 a gallon
and a stamp would cost .45 cents

In perspective, Gasoline HAS risen higher than some of the basic things we buy,
BUT (big but) - the average house cost 23k in 1966, and now costs 238k which either means Gasoline prices are NOT so bad, OR, both Gasoline AND housing costs have skyrocketed and are a rip-off.


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