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Old 11-10-2015, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rnye
Truth in that statement. It's why manual equipped exotics are going for double or triple what their paddle shift counterparts are. The manual will come back.. It's just more fun.
Have to also factor in the cars you're talking about had complete crap automatic transmissions. Stuff like E46 M3, 997 turbos, F360/430, Gallardo etc had awful true slushbox or SMG/single clutch automated manuals. When you get into the better DCT/DSG boxes it seems like more people opt for those than 6MT. Look at the E9X M3, 997.2 probably more DCT cars were sold.
Old 11-10-2015, 07:26 AM
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Dct is also faster to 60 now
Old 11-10-2015, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rockville
A friend of mine had a Porsche Cayman. He was at a Porsche Club track day with one of the factory drivers (sorry, it was about 10 years back and the details of who are now quite fuzzy). Anyway, the factory driver commented that the Cayman was the best driving of the current cars. It wasn't the fastest around the track but it was the best road going Porsche in his view because it had the best balance between feel, usable grip, breakaway etc. As a long time Miata owner I really understand this. The S2000 is a car that also really hits those points (though the steering feel was never as good as the early Miatas).
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
Originally Posted by rnye' timestamp='1446839861' post='23796944
Truth in that statement. It's why manual equipped exotics are going for double or triple what their paddle shift counterparts are. The manual will come back.. It's just more fun.
Have to also factor in the cars you're talking about had complete crap automatic transmissions. Stuff like E46 M3, 997 turbos, F360/430, Gallardo etc had awful true slushbox or SMG/single clutch automated manuals. When you get into the better DCT/DSG boxes it seems like more people opt for those than 6MT. Look at the E9X M3, 997.2 probably more DCT cars were sold.
Faster is great.. But a manual 993tt is worth more than a PDK 997.2 turbo. Weird.. (/sarcasm). Numbers sell new cars but the manual is still the preferred choice on the second hand market. Wait until the repair costs come in for dual clutch gearboxes - no one will want to touch them.
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Originally Posted by rnye
Numbers sell new cars but the manual is still the preferred choice on the second hand market. Wait until the repair costs come in for dual clutch gearboxes - no one will want to touch them.
^^ yup ^^
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Originally Posted by rnye
Faster is great.. But a manual 993tt is worth more than a PDK 997.2 turbo. Weird.. (/sarcasm). Numbers sell new cars but the manual is still the preferred choice on the second hand market.
That price difference has very little to do with the transmission. In the case of the 993, it's all about that air cooled mass hanging out behind the rear axle.
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Originally Posted by jeffbrig
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Faster is great.. But a manual 993tt is worth more than a PDK 997.2 turbo. Weird.. (/sarcasm). Numbers sell new cars but the manual is still the preferred choice on the second hand market.
That price difference has very little to do with the transmission. In the case of the 993, it's all about that air cooled mass hanging out behind the rear axle.
But goes right back to fun>numbers, no? 3.6 964T for me please.
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I love the Turbo 3.6

Also was blown away with how few of those were actually sold
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.
Sure, Maserati, and I could totally date a super model if I was into that. I just prefer fat girls.

Dude, just because you can't afford a Maserati doesn't mean you have to label them as "old man" cars.
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Originally Posted by d1rtyc4r
Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.' timestamp='1446759087' post='23796191
Sure, Maserati, and I could totally date a super model if I was into that. I just prefer fat girls.

Dude, just because you can't afford a Maserati doesn't mean you have to label them as "old man" cars.
What a sad little two-dimensional world you live in. You post every great once in a while and it's only to tell me how poor I am, which is about as insightful and accurate as a "yo momma" joke. It's like you're incapable of anything other than justifying the car you drive based on how rich you'll be perceived as for driving it. I make a good enough living that my wife could stop practicing law because we didn't need her income. If that meets your definition of poor, cool story, bro.


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