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I had a 85 4+3. My biggest gripe was the tremendous loss of chassis rigidity with the roof out. AND unless you have the car parked on a flat surface, you'll have trouble getting the roof back in.
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Its cheap b/c C4s looked dated as hell 10 years ago, LT1 is a decent engine with lots of potential but the exterior and interior looks leave lots to be desired.
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Originally Posted by Jacques79,Sep 13 2009, 10:54 PM
I think people should look closely at the 2003 Porsche Boxster S.
It's a fantastic performer in terms of giving driver feedback, engine sound behind your ears and supreme braking taken right from the 911.
260HP in a mid-engine 2855 pound chassis. Same power-to-weight ratio as a 1995 Mazda RX-7...
Handles beautifully, really sticks to the road and absorbs bumps and road imperfections like no other car. It's extremely comfortable on rough roads. It doesn't ''crash'' on bumps like a BMW Z4 or Honda S2000.
Try one with a Fabspeed exhaust system and get ready for nearly exotic sounds from the engine when the tach swings past 4000RPMs. It's got one of the sexiest intake-exhaust notes of any non-exotic car. And you gain about 10HP with a good aftermarket exhaust because the OEM design is ridiculously restricted and poorly designed for peak performance...
That's about 290HP to the crank without force induction with an ECU tune, headers and exhaust.
Originally Posted by Jacques79,Sep 13 2009, 10:54 PM
I think people should look closely at the 2003 Porsche Boxster S.
It's a fantastic performer in terms of giving driver feedback, engine sound behind your ears and supreme braking taken right from the 911.
260HP in a mid-engine 2855 pound chassis. Same power-to-weight ratio as a 1995 Mazda RX-7...
Handles beautifully, really sticks to the road and absorbs bumps and road imperfections like no other car. It's extremely comfortable on rough roads. It doesn't ''crash'' on bumps like a BMW Z4 or Honda S2000.
Try one with a Fabspeed exhaust system and get ready for nearly exotic sounds from the engine when the tach swings past 4000RPMs. It's got one of the sexiest intake-exhaust notes of any non-exotic car. And you gain about 10HP with a good aftermarket exhaust because the OEM design is ridiculously restricted and poorly designed for peak performance...
That's about 290HP to the crank without force induction with an ECU tune, headers and exhaust.
Originally Posted by Jacques79,Sep 13 2009, 10:54 PM
I think people should look closely at the 2003 Porsche Boxster S.
It's a fantastic performer in terms of giving driver feedback, engine sound behind your ears and supreme braking taken right from the 911.
260HP in a mid-engine 2855 pound chassis. Same power-to-weight ratio as a 1995 Mazda RX-7...
Handles beautifully, really sticks to the road and absorbs bumps and road imperfections like no other car. It's extremely comfortable on rough roads. It doesn't ''crash'' on bumps like a BMW Z4 or Honda S2000.
Try one with a Fabspeed exhaust system and get ready for nearly exotic sounds from the engine when the tach swings past 4000RPMs. It's got one of the sexiest intake-exhaust notes of any non-exotic car. And you gain about 10HP with a good aftermarket exhaust because the OEM design is ridiculously restricted and poorly designed for peak performance...
That's about 290HP to the crank without force induction with an ECU tune, headers and exhaust.
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect,Sep 14 2009, 01:11 AM
I dunno, that gen cobra was so so, nothing like the terminator cobras in 02-03, but I do like those older stangs despite the fact they really don't have any real endearing traits, not light or powerful, stricter emissions, after 95 no 5.0, but I guess I like em cuz I wanted one back in middle school, lol.
That's lighter than a E46 M3, Tiburon, EVO X's, new STI etc.
About the same as a 350-370z with simliar HP just worse weight distribution. The engines can be modded with ease.
For somebody wanting a C4, I recommend the 1996-1999 Cobras
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^^lol at the porsche response
still, I would not go for the vette for 7k. Even though I'll say I think it a nice car, and probably goes in a straight line just fine... I would def. NOT track. That's probably because I prefer a smaller car though.
I would go for an old m3 I think if I could find a 30 or 36 at that 7000 price point
still, I would not go for the vette for 7k. Even though I'll say I think it a nice car, and probably goes in a straight line just fine... I would def. NOT track. That's probably because I prefer a smaller car though.
I would go for an old m3 I think if I could find a 30 or 36 at that 7000 price point
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Good comparison test of the C4 Corvette versus its contemporaries: http://www.geocities.com/ma71supraturbo/ar..._93cdsupra.html
Every sentence in your response is incorrect:
Originally Posted by 11Past9,Sep 14 2009, 06:30 AM
I hope you are kidding about this suggestion. These go for $25-28,000 still... what is under the radar or bargain about this? Nothing... it is also a part of a string of Boxsters that inevitably suffered catastrophic engine failure. If we were even in this price range this car wouldn't even be on the list considering how badly it would get tromped by a C5 ZO6 in any category.
- Boxster S's are well under $20k now -- I just sold my 2003 986S for $18k this summer.
- I know dozens of people who have owned Boxsters, and not one of them suffered an engine failure, which hardly indicates that failures are "inevitable". You might be thinking of the 911, which is more prone to RMS leakage than the Boxster.
- The C5 Z06 is a fantastic car. Having said that, resale values are still higher than the Boxster's, it doesn't handle as well, and it's larger and less agile than the Boxster. I'm not saying it's a worse car than the Boxster overall (that comes down to personal preference), but your suggesting that the two are in no ways comparable suggests that you've driven neither.
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Originally Posted by Christople,Sep 14 2009, 05:53 AM
3300lbs is heavy?
That's lighter than a E46 M3, Tiburon, EVO X's, new STI etc.
About the same as a 350-370z with simliar HP just worse weight distribution. The engines can be modded with ease.
For somebody wanting a C4, I recommend the 1996-1999 Cobras
That's lighter than a E46 M3, Tiburon, EVO X's, new STI etc.
About the same as a 350-370z with simliar HP just worse weight distribution. The engines can be modded with ease.
For somebody wanting a C4, I recommend the 1996-1999 Cobras
Also, you could buy a LS1 powered F body which makes more hp, more donor cars, and tons of support, and some will even argue a better handler (although not better than the cobra out the box). It does weight 200lbs-ish more, but it makes an underrated 305 out the box.
But I do like those cobras, in all black, sexy sexy.