Ford Taurus
#31
I'd rather have a smaller, RWD sedan like the 335i, but I don't really think the Taurus is abnormally heavy for its dimensions and being AWD. I think it's more pathetic that the Camaro is near two tons.
Ford is definitely doing something right. I'd still be hesitant since I've had bad luck with Fords, but these new models are tempting.
Ford is definitely doing something right. I'd still be hesitant since I've had bad luck with Fords, but these new models are tempting.
#32
I just don't see why so many S2k owners are so ga-ga over this pig.
Ugly. Too big, and way too heavy even given it's a 4-door family sedan.
Particularly given the fwd architecture.
Love on it all you want, buy five of 'em for all I care.
But this car is DUMB.
Ugly. Too big, and way too heavy even given it's a 4-door family sedan.
Particularly given the fwd architecture.
Love on it all you want, buy five of 'em for all I care.
But this car is DUMB.
#33
Originally Posted by Abdizzle,Oct 3 2009, 04:49 PM
How does it being heavy affect you?
It being heavy has absolutely no bearing what so ever on any of the factors buyers are looking for in a car like this besides possibly fuel economy. So take your useless complaint to a thread where it's relevant.
I don't get these S2000 owners like you who think they're 1990's Roadster is light for it's dimensions/time period (which it isn't by any means) yet have the balls to call a modern Family Sedan heavy.
But yes, I do have to call this "modern Family Sedan" HEAVY. It *IS* quite overweight. The AWD SHO is actually over 4300 lb.
Enjoy it! It's another step in the wrong direction, though...
Certainly doesn't represent any kind of rennaissance for sedans for enthusiasts.
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I can imagine this powertrain in a Fusion would be a hot sedan I'd like alot more. As is I like it a lot more than the stupid 300C, who likes a car based off a Mercedes sedan designed in the mid 90's and has a cheap interior is beyond me.
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Originally Posted by Malloric,Oct 4 2009, 01:16 AM
Again, we're back to it being a Taurus. The Taurus is a bigger car in every dimension than an S class... it's huge. If that's not your thing and you want a small, light, nimble sports sedan that's great. But that isn't what the Taurus is. Its always been a big full sized practical family sedan. If that's doesn't appeal to you, it doesn't appeal to you. But that doesn't make it a bad car. You, and your demands, are shockingly not the center of the universe and the sole dictator of what the right direction is.
#40
Originally Posted by CKit,Oct 3 2009, 09:26 PM
I think you may be missing my initial point.
This is not a car that I lust after. This would be a car I'd buy for my sister in school or as a company car. My comments regarding this car are for the perspective of Ford Motor Company and its relevance to the average American car owner. Because that is what will sustain the company.
Enthusiasts are overrated from a business perspective. They need a solid car that appeals to the masses. Don't they sell more Accords in a month than all the S2000s ever made?
People want comfy and quiet. This looks like a very nice car with broad appeal.
This is not a car that I lust after. This would be a car I'd buy for my sister in school or as a company car. My comments regarding this car are for the perspective of Ford Motor Company and its relevance to the average American car owner. Because that is what will sustain the company.
Enthusiasts are overrated from a business perspective. They need a solid car that appeals to the masses. Don't they sell more Accords in a month than all the S2000s ever made?
People want comfy and quiet. This looks like a very nice car with broad appeal.
But I don't think they'd alienate *anyone* and they'd certainly attract more true enthusiasts if the car were more of a G37 (not a lightweight car, but 500-600 lb. less than this behemoth).
Sooner or later, we're all (or most of us anyway) going to have to go in the smaller/lighter/simpler/cheaper direction. This car is a step in the wrong direction.
Reliance on big/heavy/expensive cars is what led to GM's bankruptcy. Making a bigger/heavier/more-expensive new Taurus isn't, imo, the sharpest move on Ford's part.
If I were recommending or buying a 4-door for my sister or my company, this car wouldn't even be on the list.
One man's opinion!