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Old 09-02-2004, 01:20 PM
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from a previous thread:
Here's a sample of times from R&T:

Z06 12.8@113.5mph
911 Turbo 12.4@115.5mph
Viper 12.2@119.6mph ($80K)
Ford GT 12.2@121.6mph
GT2 11.9@120.6mph
Enzo 11.1@133mph
Every time they test the Ford, it's faster than the time before.

1/4 miles times (from MT):
Ford GT 11.2@131.2mph
Carrera GT 11.1@133.4mph
Enzo 11.0@133.9

Can you say drivers race?

0-60mph:
Ford 3.7sec
Carrera 3.6sec
Enzo 3.4sec

0-100mph times:
Ford 7.4sec
Carrera 7.3sec
Enzo 7.0sec

Braking distances from 60/80 mph:
Ford 110/301 ft
Carrera 101/277 ft
Enzo 106/289 ft

Drum roll please...

TOP SPEED:
Ford 200.1mph
Carera 201.5mph
Enzo 211.0mph

Old 09-02-2004, 01:31 PM
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So, the Ford GT has gotten faster (in this test) to the tune of 1 second and 10mph in the 1/4 mile. It's right there with the big boys.

So the Enzo costs 4 times as much and the Carrera costs 3 times as much....

Well I'll say again I'm not crazy about the SC V8 too close to a Mustang or a Lightning engine. Rather have a Saleen S7 engine. Rather have a higher red-line (than 6500). Oh well. It gets the job done.

If it turns out the Ford GT is within 2 mph of the Enzo in the 1/4 mile. And 15 mph faster than the C5 Z06 in the 1/4 mile. Hmm that's all right. I guess I can put up with a truck-ish engine.

Mighty interesting.

The Ford GT priced at $150K is just a bit more than a 911 tt. Well that's OK with me.
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The engine in the Ford GT has a dry sump oil system. How many production cars have that? The fact that an engine out of a Mustang can run with Ferrari and Porsche's best is hardly an indictment - more of an endorsement of the Mustang, wouldn't you say? All you're really saying is Ford puts almost-supercar engines their street cars. Who else does that? Imagine if that is what they really did - took an engine out of a truck, dropped it into a sportscar, and jumped to the top echelon of performance. How is that anything but a slap in the face of Porsche and Ferrari, who think they are something special for building super-expensive cars that are not much faster than a Ford with a truck engine?

All three cars are amazing, but I cannot really say that one is better than another at the end of the day. I personally had to grow accustomed to the Enzo and Carera GT, while the Ford GT looked perfect from day one.
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Originally Posted by no_really,Sep 2 2004, 03:32 PM
The engine in the Ford GT has a dry sump oil system. How many production cars have that? The fact that an engine out of a Mustang can run with Ferrari and Porsche's best is hardly an indictment - more of an endorsement of the Mustang, wouldn't you say? All you're really saying is Ford puts almost-supercar engines their street cars. Who else does that? Imagine if that is what they really did - took an engine out of a truck, dropped it into a sportscar, and jumped to the top echelon of performance. How is that anything but a slap in the face of Porsche and Ferrari, who think they are something special for building super-expensive cars that are not much faater than a Ford with a truck engine?

All three cars are amazing, but I cannot really say that one is better than another at the end of the day. I personally had to grow accustomed to the Enzo and Carera GT, while the Ford GT looked perfect from day one.
An engine is an engine. It doesn't matter if it's from a truck or a sportscar. Almost anyone can make an engine with gigantic amounts of power, but it's the whole package that matters. The suspension, driving dynamics, looks, and feel. I don't think the GT is up to par with the Enzo, and Carrera GT in total package, but it comes damn close. Also, the GT is the only one that's FI, which isn't a big deal, but the Carrera Gt, and Enzo (to me) have "better" engines. Coming from an S2000 I prefer high revving, high specific output engines.

I would love to see a track battle between these 3
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Its all about personal choice and brand loyalty at this level. Unless you are Jay Leno and car afford all these cars at once.

Although he did say that he wouldn't buy an Enzo since he doesn't like paddle shifters...

Cost is definetly on the side of the Ford GT though... from what Ive heard, it might be blown, but at the end of the day, it makes all the right noises, moves the right way... and has the right stuff.

There are still people that would rather buy a GT2 instead of a Ford GT and there will be others that would rather have a 360 Modena over the Ford GT... again, its all about personal taste and choices at this level although many more CAN look at the Ford GT than the Carrera GT or the Enzo..
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How much is the mark up on GT's though. I heard the first one to the public #10 went for $500k. Doesn't seem like a bargain anymore.
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Originally Posted by MaxGeek,Sep 2 2004, 03:58 PM
How much is the mark up on GT's though. I heard the first one to the public #10 went for $500k. Doesn't seem like a bargain anymore.
Let's see once they ramp up. Of course the first few will be marked up as were the first S2000s and the first EVOs etc...

I believe the goal is to make 1500/year for 3 years. And 95% will be sold in the US. That's more than the yearly production of cars like the GT2 or the 360M. At the end of the day, I don't think there are millions of people with the money and the desire.

I hope they will sell for $150K. That's the only way I'd buy one.
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I don't know about mark-up, but the first one was sold at a charity auction, and 20 years from now, I doubt it will have depreciated. I think what passes for MSRP is ~$140-150K. Paying mark-up is a personal choice. I knew people who would brag about how much mark-up they had to pay to get their M3's(idiots).
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Go Enzo!
Boo on the price!


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