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Old 11-06-2009, 01:34 AM
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It may be the second best supercar, right behind the new McLaren!
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Originally Posted by triman54,Nov 6 2009, 02:34 AM
It may be the second best supercar, right behind the new McLaren!
I don't know about that now.
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RX-8: 232hp/1.3 liters = 178hp/liter

Can't beat rotaries for power/displacement or power/weight.

(but of course they're about to come out of the woodwork going on about how it's really a 2.6 liter, 3.9 liter, 7.8 liter, etc.)
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Originally Posted by triman54,Nov 6 2009, 02:34 AM
It may be the second best supercar, right behind the new McLaren!
I'm not sure either. I think the McLaren, from the point of view of someone who has never driven one , is flawless. They styling is great inside and out. It has a no-BS look about it. This Ferrari is really good yet still has a bit of Japanese over styling for the sake of proving how good our plastic mold vendors really are.
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Originally Posted by ZDan,Nov 6 2009, 05:12 AM
RX-8: 232hp/1.3 liters = 178hp/liter

Can't beat rotaries for power/displacement or power/weight.

(but of course they're about to come out of the woodwork going on about how it's really a 2.6 liter, 3.9 liter, 7.8 liter, etc.)
Heck no, we come out of the wood work and say that the Chrysler turbine car beats rotaries!

130hp/0L of displacement = .... well I'm not sure but I bet it's good!
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[QUOTE=rockville,Nov 6 2009, 05:39 AM]Heck no, we come out of the wood work and say that the Chrysler turbine car beats rotaries!
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Originally Posted by ZDan,Nov 6 2009, 08:51 AM
I have a couple of electric two-wheelers (Vectrix scooter and an electrified SV650) that make 26hp on 0 liters. Infinite power/displacement ftmfw!

Power/weight is another story, though. Battries is heavy!
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Originally Posted by ZDan,Nov 6 2009, 05:12 AM
RX-8: 232hp/1.3 liters = 178hp/liter

Can't beat rotaries for power/displacement or power/weight.

(but of course they're about to come out of the woodwork going on about how it's really a 2.6 liter, 3.9 liter, 7.8 liter, etc.)
Anyone that has a grasp what a thermodynamic engine cycle is knows the rotary is equivalent to a 2.6L piston engine in terms of displacement.
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^^

Don't forget the 458 uses direct injection, that improves burn rate and efficiency quite drastically.
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Originally Posted by overst33r,Nov 6 2009, 07:19 AM
Anyone that has a grasp what a thermodynamic engine cycle is knows the rotary is equivalent to a 2.6L piston engine in terms of displacement.
No, it aspirates 1.3 liters per crank rev, IMO it's a 1.3 liter.

Just like a 500cc two stroke isn't referred to as a 1000cc, neither should 1.3 liter rotary be referred to as 2.6 liters.

Would make more sense to rate a 2.0 liter 4-stroke piston engine as a 1 liter, as that's all it aspirates per crank rev!


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