chrisfranklin

s-ayc= not needed?
i guess it depends on what kind of performance you are looking for.
drifting awd? kinda retarded

a recent b.m. video i was watching showed that 3 pro drivers all agreed the s-ayc was a great help in the performance of their evos.

as for the dyno #'s of the mr vs 05 sti; these numbers made no sense to me @ all.
1. they used a dynojet, which is known for producing very high numbers
2. mitsu is also 'known' for sending ringers out for tests
3. the 04 usdm sti was dyno'd by aps @ 311hp @ the crank
4. not enough of the factors regarding the #'s were revealed.
fwiw, and another reason why it makes no sense; harmon motive, who dyno'd the cars also claims to have tuned an sti running an fpgreen to upwards of 500whp!
breaking that down...
1. internally gated greens have yet to make over 400whp on pump gas on any other sti
2. he uses the dynojet, so the #'s are a bit 'inflated' compared to other dynos

drag-racing the evo and sti is a sad use of either cars ability, and as previously mentioned, usdm sti's are doing very well in real world contests.
the 4g63 will hold more boost/power on stock internals than i believe the ej257 can.
sti's 6 spd will never (unless it's ratios are changed) be good for drag racing

CwestinAP1

don't forget who won the 2003 World Rally Championship. Subaru, and who is doing better this year in the WRC? subaru or mitsubishi? Subaru.

Scot

not sure what that has to do with anything.??? Those cars probably don't even have one part that a production car has.

y2ks2k

[QUOTE=Scot,Sep 14 2004, 06:28 PM] not sure what that has to do with anything.???

nevert00fast

I've noticed this type of behavior too. I always try to wave or give the thumbs up if I see EVOs on the road, but they either stare at me or rev at me. As if they think their car is the hottest thing on the road, and it's so much more superior than the STi.

As far as EVO vs. STi in the drag racing event which I didn't even bother going..
Let's see, 12 years old race-proven motor with ton of cheaper aftermarket parts VS. 1 year old motor with minimal mods options. 3 shifts in the EVO VS. 4 shifts in the STi. Gee...I was really wondering who were going to win at that event.

Scot

Did you get some time slips yet sparky? Maybe the Evo drivers in your story were just trying to get away from the glare off your bald spot?

The STI drivers i see here are usually in their mid 50's and probably never got past 3500rpm.... I see 3 other evo's fairly regularly and they are driven in a normal manner by 25-35 year olds.

Funny how you (todd) were the dork that posted **first** that your STI was faster than my Evo....yet you mention how mature STI owners are and don't post things like that.

now nevert00fast is complaining about having to switch gears too many times.... blame subaru...

and.... i am still waiting to see what class / field / track that STI's dominate Evo's in your SCCA magazine.?

AbusiveWombat

Any stability/traction control will make your car slower. For drag and track people often disable the electronics to give them a bit more control. So, I stand by my comment that many people do disable AYC. My drifting comment was not ment to mean that the EVO could enter a drifting event, but by disabling the AYC, you're able to swing the rear end out more.

Secondly, the 2005 MR vs. 2005 STi was on the same dyno on the same day. It doesn't matter what dyno it was or how far off it's number are....the fact was that the MR had more power to the ground than the 2005 STi. The editors commented that this may be due to the STi's new ECU which has been reflashed for the pinging problem from 2003. Either way the MR was on top. It's certainly possible that the MR was a ringer but only time will tell as the MR's come out. Judging by the 13.3 quarter mile (which is right in the ballpark of a normal EVO), I doubt this is true.

y2ks2k

Scot, join SCCA and read the magazines for yourself. Again, Ill say that you tend to ignore any data that

Diablo99V

Subaru OWNS Mitsu. Is that clear?

Scot

STI - do you realize that i road race an S2000? Click my signature link to see a picture. S2000's are not as good as an Evo as an overall performance car, but that would be pretty dumb of me to pick it as a race car then bash it.

As for me picking up an SCCA magazine.... i was just going to let you quote me all of these tracks and races that the STI is beating the Evo. I don't even know what class they race, but I have not heard of any road racing with them other than T1 which they both suck compared to a Z-06 vette.


Ok....go fetch me some of those posts you are talking about..... get me some mt. dew while you are at it.

You are always one step ahead.