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Old 01-04-2003, 02:39 PM
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Just thought I'd share this.... Judging by some of the responses in the SUV thread, I think y'all might be happy this happened.

PITTSBURGH (Jan. 4) - In the latest in a string of vandalism carried out in the name of the Earth Liberation Front, members of the radical environmental group are claiming responsibility for a fire at a Pennsylvania auto dealership.

A posting on the group's Web site said the ``attack'' targeted SUVs in a fight ``to remove the profit motive from the killing of the natural environment.''

Jugs of gasoline were set ablaze under three vehicles, engulfing them and a nearby car in flames Wednesday at a dealership in Girard, about 110 miles north of Pittsburgh, FBI Special Agent Bob Rudge said. Three other vehicles also had jugs of gasoline set under them but failed to ignite.

``I have no reason to doubt that it's an individual who committed the acts on behalf of the Earth Liberation Front,'' Rudge said.

The FBI considers the Earth Liberation Front one of the nation's most prolific domestic terrorist organizations. It is thought to be responsible for the 1998 torching of a ski resort in Vail, Colo., an arson that caused $12 million in damage and is considered the most destructive act of eco-terrorism in U.S. history.

ELF is loosely organized. Anyone who carries out an action under the group's guidelines and claims responsibility as part of the organization is considered a member. Over the past year, its name has been attached to a string of vandalism in Pennsylvania.

Last month, the group's Web site said ELF members and cells from the Animal Liberation Front set a Nov. 26 fire at a mink farm in Erie. The fire destroyed a barn, but no animals or people were harmed.

The group also claimed responsibility for an Aug. 11 fire at an unoccupied forest research station near Warren and the torching in March of a construction crane at a bridge work site in Erie, Rudge said.

ELF's claims of responsibility typically come through its Web site, where managers say they serve only as a media conduit for the group. A manager who did not provide an identity said in an e-mail that the communique about Wednesday's fire came in anonymously, as do all reports of ELF attacks.

Rudge said that communique, posted on the Web site, appeared to be authentic because it included information that hadn't been made public.
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There are ways to accomplish things, to bring about changes, and this is probably the most ineffective way possible.
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You know, instead of starting those SUV's on fire... if they wanted to prevent pollution (as if starting a car on fire is good for the environment), they could have just stolen the SUV and stashed it somewhere... didn't need to burn the damn thing.
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Irony, even though it's supposed to be dead, is that the pollution from a car fire is huge.
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So much for the effectiveness of the "War on Terror." (IMO, it's more of a political game than anything that actually benefits the people of the US and the world.)

The torching doesn't bother me much, actually - likely nobody lost any money except for the insurance company, and anyway I think insurance companies are scam artists out to screw their customers as much as possible. Of course, it does piss me off about thier methods - wouldn't surprise me if they caused more polution than the exhaust emissions of the trucks over their lifetimes.
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I forgot to add my opinion about this. I agree with you all. Stupid, stupid thing to do.
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Originally posted by LA-Z
Irony, even though it's supposed to be dead, is that the pollution from a car fire is huge.
To add insult to injury, the manufacturer will now "waste" more resources to build 3-6 replacements for the vehicles that were damaged/destroyed by the fire for the dealership to sell in their stead.

to the ELF for being stupid.
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This is dumb on so many levels:

1. Pollution from the fire and replacement vehicles as stated above

2. What kind of idiot burns things up just because they disagree with it, or don't like the environmental impact

All I have to say is they better have better driven an insight to and fro the burning cause if they are driving anything that pollutes more than that they ought to burn their own vehicles. If you wanna change the world start with yourself!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elistan
[B]The torching doesn't bother me much, actually - likely nobody lost any money except for the insurance company, and anyway I think insurance companies are scam artists out to screw their customers as much as possible.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by papadali
[B]All I have to say is they better have better driven an insight to and fro the burning cause if they are driving anything that pollutes more than that they ought to burn their own vehicles.


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