E63 v CTS-V
#1
#4
Originally Posted by S2020,Jan 4 2010, 10:13 AM
it's the way of the world now
Enzo - no manual
F458 - no manual
F430 - mostly no manual
911T - faster with auto
and the list goes on....
Enzo - no manual
F458 - no manual
F430 - mostly no manual
911T - faster with auto
and the list goes on....
I like my third pedal and stick.
#5
Love the new E63 and I agree it's the better overall car to the CTS-V, but it's very hard to overlook the $25-35k real world price difference. That's a huge price margin for all but the most hard core AMG fanatic.
I'd still take the CTS-V and have an extra $30k in the bank.
I'd still take the CTS-V and have an extra $30k in the bank.
#6
I just want to be able to shift the car on my cue. If that means using a pedal and stick, then that's cool. But if the same feat can be performed without actually using a 3rd pedal, then maybe that works, too. But if I push the button and it takes a full second before I'm into the next gear, like most old sportshifts were, then I'll pass. But if it's a automated manual transmission with 100-200ms shift times... I'll take it. I want the shifts to be telepathic... I don't want to have to call ahead before shifting.
#7
Bah - they compared the automatic CTS-V to the semi-automatic (manual with no clutch) E63. In a sports sedan, you want to try the manual (or semi-manual) gearbox if at all possible. CTS-V has a 6MT option and they should've used it. It'd probably have made it a more engaging car and reduced the "brilliance" of the semi-manual E63 tranny.
It costs you $25K more for the Benz in order to get virtually tied or beaten by the CTS-V in every performance category. I fail to see how the E63 is a better SPORT sedan. It may be a better overall package but with emphasis on the sport, I don't think it is the best car.
I haven't driven either one.
It costs you $25K more for the Benz in order to get virtually tied or beaten by the CTS-V in every performance category. I fail to see how the E63 is a better SPORT sedan. It may be a better overall package but with emphasis on the sport, I don't think it is the best car.
I haven't driven either one.
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#9
Originally Posted by motortrend
Charging side by side, the two sedans sound like a pair of dueling T-Rexes, though the naturally aspirated E63 rocks the earth with particular ferocity -- especially during full-throttle upshifts, which it delivers like bazooka blasts.
#10
Originally Posted by Aerodax,Jan 4 2010, 01:37 PM
No manual, no thanks.
I don't care if it is faster, if you're not having fun, why do it?
Last i checked, you can still get an old fashioned stick on some great cars.