Drove the Lotus Evora Today
12-03-2009, 01:57 PM
#31
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It's not the motor, it's the fact that it makes less power than the NSX from more displacement nearly 20 years later in a similarly weighted chassis. That's not progress at $80K.
For $60K, maybe. For $50K, probably. However, at $80K I'm all over a really nicely loaded Cayman S, basic 997S, GT-R, or Viper. I'll give up a bit of steering feel for 50, 75, 175, or 300 more hp.
It's not the motor, it's the fact that it makes less power than the NSX from more displacement nearly 20 years later in a similarly weighted chassis. That's not progress at $80K.
For $60K, maybe. For $50K, probably. However, at $80K I'm all over a really nicely loaded Cayman S, basic 997S, GT-R, or Viper. I'll give up a bit of steering feel for 50, 75, 175, or 300 more hp.
12-03-2009, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Dec 3 2009, 02:57 PM
+1
It's not the motor, it's the fact that it makes less power than the NSX from more displacement nearly 20 years later in a similarly weighted chassis. That's not progress at $80K.
For $60K, maybe. For $50K, probably. However, at $80K I'm all over a really nicely loaded Cayman S, basic 997S, GT-R, or Viper. I'll give up a bit of steering feel for 50, 75, 175, or 300 more hp.
It's not the motor, it's the fact that it makes less power than the NSX from more displacement nearly 20 years later in a similarly weighted chassis. That's not progress at $80K.
For $60K, maybe. For $50K, probably. However, at $80K I'm all over a really nicely loaded Cayman S, basic 997S, GT-R, or Viper. I'll give up a bit of steering feel for 50, 75, 175, or 300 more hp.
Who says the Evora feels more nimble than a Cayman S or has better steering feel?
The Cayman S-Boxster S have been the best in terms of ''steering feel'' aside from the Lotus Elise-Exige over the last few years.
If the Evora handled better or gave better feedback than the Cayman S-Boxster S than OK for the pricetag, but it doesn't seem like it's the case.
So I'll take a 320HP Cayman S for less money.
Although I haven't driven the Evora yet but I would be surprised if it really felt that much better than the Porsche.
12-03-2009, 02:38 PM
#33
Nice write-up, OP!
On the motor front, my wife has this motor in her RX350 and it makes a ground-pounding, front-wheel spinning 270hp in that iteriation.
It's a good motor, but it really isn't a sports car motor at all. It revs out fine and is smooth and has decent pull, but as everyone else mentioned, for $80k, juice the motor a bit. Put a blower on it and make 350hp or something.
Lord knows a nicely designed supercharger could add 75hp NO PROBLEM and with zero reliability issues and 350hp would be much more compelling than 276hp. Heck, they didn't even use the direct injection version of the 3.5L Toyota mill which makes 306hp or so.
The Evora sounds like a wonderful car with a subpar powerplant.
On the motor front, my wife has this motor in her RX350 and it makes a ground-pounding, front-wheel spinning 270hp in that iteriation.
It's a good motor, but it really isn't a sports car motor at all. It revs out fine and is smooth and has decent pull, but as everyone else mentioned, for $80k, juice the motor a bit. Put a blower on it and make 350hp or something. Lord knows a nicely designed supercharger could add 75hp NO PROBLEM and with zero reliability issues and 350hp would be much more compelling than 276hp. Heck, they didn't even use the direct injection version of the 3.5L Toyota mill which makes 306hp or so.
The Evora sounds like a wonderful car with a subpar powerplant.
12-03-2009, 03:51 PM
#34
Wanna love the car, but with the 911 basically at the same price and weight and 2+2 configuration, but with ~70 more hp...
Not to mention the Cayman and Cayman S for way less money...
I just don't see how they're gonna sell too many of these.
The Elise/Exige make a compelling argument by virtue of being so much lighter-weight than anything else. But the Evora is really nothing special in the weight department.
Not to mention the Cayman and Cayman S for way less money...
I just don't see how they're gonna sell too many of these.
The Elise/Exige make a compelling argument by virtue of being so much lighter-weight than anything else. But the Evora is really nothing special in the weight department.
12-03-2009, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Dec 3 2009, 05:38 PM
Nice write-up, OP!
On the motor front, my wife has this motor in her RX350 and it makes a ground-pounding, front-wheel spinning 270hp in that iteriation. It's a good motor, but it really isn't a sports car motor at all. It revs out fine and is smooth and has decent pull, but as everyone else mentioned, for $80k, juice the motor a bit. Put a blower on it and make 350hp or something.
Lord knows a nicely designed supercharger could add 75hp NO PROBLEM and with zero reliability issues and 350hp would be much more compelling than 276hp. Heck, they didn't even use the direct injection version of the 3.5L Toyota mill which makes 306hp or so.
The Evora sounds like a wonderful car with a subpar powerplant.
On the motor front, my wife has this motor in her RX350 and it makes a ground-pounding, front-wheel spinning 270hp in that iteriation.
It's a good motor, but it really isn't a sports car motor at all. It revs out fine and is smooth and has decent pull, but as everyone else mentioned, for $80k, juice the motor a bit. Put a blower on it and make 350hp or something. Lord knows a nicely designed supercharger could add 75hp NO PROBLEM and with zero reliability issues and 350hp would be much more compelling than 276hp. Heck, they didn't even use the direct injection version of the 3.5L Toyota mill which makes 306hp or so.
The Evora sounds like a wonderful car with a subpar powerplant.
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/16582/lot...0kw-eventually/
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