lig

Local BMW dealer has way too many apparently. I think the Z4 is fugly anyways...

Mocky

hehehee.. lig..i thought you were going to say that you are selling your S or something
cayenne's and z4's have to be the biggest busts of '03

Saud2k

nothing wrong with Z4s , they r sweet cars, they do everything well
-cruise
-handle
-look
-speed
-comfort
-reliable
i like it, my friend has one, and it puts my car to shame on the interior
and 5k off isnt bad either

PedalFaster

Around here they're both selling like hotcakes. My understanding is also that the Cayenne is responsible for a big jump in overall Porsche sales despite a decline in sales of their other lines. So if by "bust" you mean "raging success", then yes, I agree completely.

Steve

phoenix9999

The Cayenne is probably the success story of 2003 as far as I'm concerned. Not too many single vehicle introductions double a company's revenue in the space of a single year!

GChambers

Here in Indy at the BMW dealer, there is a line of Z4's all with "$4500.00 OFF!' singns in the windshields.

It may be a nice car but the front end is hideously ugly.

allkingz

I see more Z4s than S2000s driving around town. I wouldn't call it a "bust."

Mocky

i guess i stand corrected. i see very big rebates on cayenne's and z4's so i was under the impression that they were not selling well. also, i never see cayenne's or z4's.
my apologies.

mx5

[QUOTE]Originally posted by GChambers
Here in Indy at the BMW dealer, there is a line of Z4's all with "$4500.00 OFF!' singns in the windshields.

PoweredByCamry

Actually I don't think it's much different in CA. Apparently BMW has a $5k nationwide factory to dealer incentive on '03 Z4 3.0i's. I saw an ad in the SJ Mercury news for $5k off '03s. The original incentive was for 11/1/03-12/1/03 but it's possible that either a)BMW extended it or b)the dealers could have "punched" the cars 12/1 to get the incentive.

So $5k off should be just the starting point. I have heard of dealers who are offering $7500 off or more, which makes sense.

Hard to say if the car is a "bust" or not. Dealers here seem to have a lot of inventory, but apparently the car is selling okay. With the new model year coming in and winter coming on, it's not uncommon for rebates on cars like this for old stock. FTD incentives were common on the Z3 around this time of year too. Not this big, but then again the Z3 was ~$4k cheaper to begin with.

Reminds me of the experience I had buying my '99 Z3 Coupe in March '99. There was a $3k FTD incentive, they let me take a demo car home for the day, I came back and bought the car for $7k under MSRP with no bargaining. I guess you can say that was another car BMW couldn't sell because most people thought it was ugly Seriously though, as much fun as my new S2k is (and boy is it) the coupe is probably, on balance, the best car I ever have or will buy. So much so, I can't bear to sell it!

Peter