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The only thing I don't like about diesels is all of the redneck hicks here in CO who drive diesel trucks. They just love to spew as much black smoke behind them as they can...
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Originally Posted by [DT
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I guess none of the -1 f@#ktards know anything about diesel. Great job!
[quote name='s2kpdx01' timestamp='1320784372' post='21139458']
what about this guy
I guess none of the -1 f@#ktards know anything about diesel. Great job!
[quote name='s2kpdx01' timestamp='1320784372' post='21139458']
what about this guy
so, I never really had any interest in diesel until recently; then we picked up the 335d. For DD duty, I would say it is awesome. Monstrous torque; doesn't really matter what gear you're in - when you step on the gas, it goes and goes fast.There is a very small turbo lag which almost feels like you're waiting for the auto to downshift when you're in first (maybe you are; haven't driven it enough to tell-it's my wife's car). On the downside, it revs to only 5500 or thereabouts (could be 6k), which just seems strange...an extra 1-2k really changes the feel of the car. Mileage for far is TBD, she's turning 25mpg in 100% city driving <35mph with a lot of stop signs and lights; her first road trip will be next week and I'll get a read on HWY mileage. Should be high 30s to maybe 40 depending on the elevation changes and speed limit.Some annoying things like the Urea refill (covered during the free maintenance period for BMWs), some odd behavior periodically the fans will run in the garage for 15 minutes as part of the diesel particulate filter cleaning cycle (it's normal, just weird...makes your garage smell like something is burning).Diesel availability is decent, about 1/3 of stations around my house have it. The economics absolutely make sense when you factor in tax credits, etc. It's great going 500 miles on a tank; way fewer fill ups. It's relatively quiet, doesn't smell, no smoke (ha).As someone else put it, it has more torque than a Hemi and better mileage than most 4 bangers, what's not to like?
Your post is even more relevant that you might know, since I've been kind of ruminating over another X5, but specifically the diesel model.
I've been trying to figure out the fuel price difference vs. mileage difference, but certainly, having better range is outstanding. We just recently did one our PA roadtrips and I was thinking about that as a model for savings. Love the insane torque, I think the 35d X5 is like ~450 @ 1700RPM or something close.
Based on the experience so far, I wouldn't hesitate to take the plunge on another diesel model if it wasn't a dedicated sports car (ie I'd miss the high revving too much if I was driving stick in a convertible, for example)...but if it is a sedan or SUV, it makes a ton of sense.
Another thing worth noting: When you hear people say things like "but diesel is more expensive than gas"...maybe it depends on your area of the country, but here diesel is maybe 15 cents more than premium. That is like 4%. The mileage upside is way more than 4%. Tax benefits kill off any premium you pay for the diesel model. So it's hard for it to NOT make sense.
Also, a lot of the time you see diesel vs. regular unleaded comparisons, because a diesel VW might be cross shopped with a number of econoboxes that rock regular unleaded. Given you're on the s2000 forum, you probably dig sporty cars, and any car in your consideration set probably takes premium.
So for me, it was really a matter of premium gas or diesel, there are literally no cars I'd consider buying that take anything else.
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There is no longer a tax credit to offset the higher cost. I believe the credits are now geared towards plug-in hybrids and electric cars. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxleanburn.shtml
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When I was in germany, I got a BMW 320d as a rental, and it was amazing. I would average near 40mpg and it could do 150mph. If i ever need a commuter car it would be high on my list.
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