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Old 08-22-2013, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by s.hasan546
where did you get 3400 lbs? 3298 estimated... 90 lbs heavier.... most americans could lose half that at least around their mid section
http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada.../vettecomp.pdf
Among other places. 3289 might have been estimated, 3444 is reality. It gained about 100 lb. over the C6.
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gotta agree here, my 08 weighs in at a bit over 3,2xx lbs.
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Originally Posted by ZDan
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where did you get 3400 lbs? 3298 estimated... 90 lbs heavier.... most americans could lose half that at least around their mid section
http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada.../vettecomp.pdf
Among other places. 3289 might have been estimated, 3444 is reality. It gained about 100 lb. over the C6.
I believe that is the weight of the Z51 car. The base car should be lighter but probably by no more than 50lb. Also, the estimate may be with an empty tank, I'm not sure about the fuel load when R&T weighed the car. It's interesting to note that C&D recorded the exact same 3444 weight. Realistically the two magazines should never have the same test weight since even a small variation in fluids would cause some difference.

Either way, I read an article talking about the weight gain. I can't blame GM given where the weight went and the market. Also, GM has held the line on Corvette weight based on historic weights. The C6 was lighter than the C5, C4. According to this the C3 ranged from 3260 to 3750 depending on year and model.
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I'm keeping a close eye on the C7. This year, I opted for a S2K instead of a C6 as I wanted a minimal roadster. I may return to the Vette world in the future, though.
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Originally Posted by ZDan
Corvette had been holding the line on weight for DECADES. 1968 small-block Corvette: ~3300 lb. 2013 Corvette: ~3300 lb. 3400+ is a disappointment and a step in the wrong direction...

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I believe that is the weight of the Z51 car. The base car should be lighter but probably by no more than 50lb. Also, the estimate may be with an empty tank, I'm not sure about the fuel load when R&T weighed the car. It's interesting to note that C&D recorded the exact same 3444 weight. Realistically the two magazines should never have the same test weight since even a small variation in fluids would cause some difference.
I'd guess they should be within ~10 lb. or so for two cars with the exact same spec, within ~5 lb. for the same exact car, so ~5-10% of the time you could expect them to report the same exact weight down to the pound. It's not like they should *never* report the same weight!

The 3289/3444 lb. discrepancy could well be fuel. 18.5 gallons ~117 lb.
Any case, the car has gained about 100 lb.

Either way, I read an article talking about the weight gain. I can't blame GM given where the weight went and the market. Also, GM has held the line on Corvette weight based on historic weights. The C6 was lighter than the C5, C4.
C6 was about the same weight as the C4, a bit heavier than the C5. The C5 "hardtop" and Z06 were 3100-3150 lb.! http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...rvette-hardtop http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...-C5-R_data.pdf
The C6 Z06 wasn't much lighter than the base model, both just over 3300 lb. GrandSport and ZR1 just over 3400. http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...51ba6b2de4.pdf

The C6 was supposed to be lighter, and people talk about it being lighter, but I never saw a single C6 test with a curb weight below 3300 lb., and that's including the Z06.

According to this the C3 ranged from 3260 to 3750 depending on year and model.
It did pork up a few hundred pounds between 1973 and 1979, but I dunno if I believe 3750!

Hopefully the 2014's 3444 is likewise a short-term aberration, but it was *supposed* to be lighter! Just like the C6 was *supposed* to be lighter than the C5. Ah well, it's better this way as I'm not tempted...
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The car has to compete in the marketplace based upon performance and content... individual specs and miniscule weight variances don't count for much.

The car looks to be a fabulous bang for the buck vehicle so lets wait for a drive before we decide too much.
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The C7 Vette weight is right at my personal subjective threshold but it's definitely not holding the car back. Chevy's putting up some great numbers with the car. My concerns for the car are more about livability and driveability rather than performance which is guaranteed at this point. The things that I always annoying in the Vettes I've owned are.....
  1. The perpetually maligned interior. But it looks like Chevy has tried to make the cockpit a much nicer place to live without breaking the bank. Problem solved. At least for me.
  2. Driving position. This has always been my biggest gripe with the Vette. It always felt like I was laying down in a big bathtub. That long hood seemed to stretch ahead to parts unknown. I never felt comfortable judging the corners of the car whether I was parking or clipping the apex of a turn. And this after a couple of years of driving the car. In contrast the S2000 seemed familiar from day one. Ditto my current SLK55 AMG.

I can easily live with the 3,400 lb curb weight if Chevy has fixed the driving position / visibility issue. IMHO that change would make a huge change for the better in daily driving enjoyment that would be far more noticeable than a 100 lb weight gain.
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Originally Posted by ZDan
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Corvette had been holding the line on weight for DECADES. 1968 small-block Corvette: ~3300 lb. 2013 Corvette: ~3300 lb. 3400+ is a disappointment and a step in the wrong direction...

Originally Posted by rockville
I believe that is the weight of the Z51 car. The base car should be lighter but probably by no more than 50lb. Also, the estimate may be with an empty tank, I'm not sure about the fuel load when R&T weighed the car. It's interesting to note that C&D recorded the exact same 3444 weight. Realistically the two magazines should never have the same test weight since even a small variation in fluids would cause some difference.
I'd guess they should be within ~10 lb. or so for two cars with the exact same spec, within ~5 lb. for the same exact car, so ~5-10% of the time you could expect them to report the same exact weight down to the pound. It's not like they should *never* report the same weight!

The 3289/3444 lb. discrepancy could well be fuel. 18.5 gallons ~117 lb.
Any case, the car has gained about 100 lb.

Either way, I read an article talking about the weight gain. I can't blame GM given where the weight went and the market. Also, GM has held the line on Corvette weight based on historic weights. The C6 was lighter than the C5, C4.
C6 was about the same weight as the C4, a bit heavier than the C5. The C5 "hardtop" and Z06 were 3100-3150 lb.! http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...rvette-hardtop http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...-C5-R_data.pdf
The C6 Z06 wasn't much lighter than the base model, both just over 3300 lb. GrandSport and ZR1 just over 3400. http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...51ba6b2de4.pdf

The C6 was supposed to be lighter, and people talk about it being lighter, but I never saw a single C6 test with a curb weight below 3300 lb., and that's including the Z06.

According to this the C3 ranged from 3260 to 3750 depending on year and model.
It did pork up a few hundred pounds between 1973 and 1979, but I dunno if I believe 3750!

Hopefully the 2014's 3444 is likewise a short-term aberration, but it was *supposed* to be lighter! Just like the C6 was *supposed* to be lighter than the C5. Ah well, it's better this way as I'm not tempted...

Are you sure about the tested weigh for the C6 Z06? I could have sworn they were tested in the 21XX lb range.
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.
Are you sure about the tested weigh for the C6 Z06? I could have sworn they were tested in the 21XX lb range.
seems a little low

These weight debates are always funny. It would take someone about 5 minutes to find a truck scale and weigh their car. I did it with my s2000 back in the day.
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.
Are you sure about the tested weigh for the C6 Z06? I could have sworn they were tested in the 21XX lb range.
3310 lb. here:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...51ba6b2de4.pdf

But hey, here's an '07 at 3180 lb: http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...vehicle-ss.pdf

All over the place...
From another R&T article http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...he-power-of-12
One might think that the additional carbon components would save weight, but in the end our test car is only 20 lb. lighter than the ZR1 and still 115 lb. heavier than the base Z06.

The 3180 lb is by far the lightest I've seen for the C6 Z06, vs. 3115 for the C5 Z06.


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