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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DVO
[B]Get the back issue to motorcyclist april 2002 they tested a gsxr1000 against a Z06 the bike was faster everywhere but one section of the track.
[B]Get the back issue to motorcyclist april 2002 they tested a gsxr1000 against a Z06 the bike was faster everywhere but one section of the track.
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Originally posted by Honda Racer
ya, i bought that issue. they should have put andretti up against a gp bike instead of the RC. GP bikes would smoke an RC...wouldnt they?
ya, i bought that issue. they should have put andretti up against a gp bike instead of the RC. GP bikes would smoke an RC...wouldnt they?
GP1 bikes def. have better power/weight ratios, but putting that power down and finding traction makes things that much more challenging.
Also, if you're gonna compare a GP1 bike, might as well bring in an F1 car for comparison, right?
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Originally posted by Chris S
Also, if you're gonna compare a GP1 bike, might as well bring in an F1 car for comparison, right?
Also, if you're gonna compare a GP1 bike, might as well bring in an F1 car for comparison, right?
Ultimately the F1 car was fastest, but not by much. The big difference was in the breaking, the F1 car having carbon brakes could leave the breaking much later and carry more speed into the corner but the bike was always faster out of the corner.
They did however point out that the NSR costs about
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Originally posted by StevenM
The big difference was in the breaking, the F1 car having carbon brakes could leave the breaking much later and carry more speed into the corner but the bike was always faster out of the corner.
The big difference was in the breaking, the F1 car having carbon brakes could leave the breaking much later and carry more speed into the corner but the bike was always faster out of the corner.
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I agree with all these guys here. Go to the track to explore your bike. Doing these things increases the likelyhood that you will fall off the bike.... and falling on the street is just bad news.
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This doesn't have much to do with the original post...but since we're on the subject.
The greatest performance advantage that an F1 car has over any motorcycle is not the brakes (directly) or the contact patch (directly) it's the downforce they generate. The downforce increases the force the tires put on the pavement (some of which results in a larger contact patch) which in turn allows the tire to generate higher cornering, braking and on-throttle traction. An F1 car is going to be able to brake later, get on the gas sooner and run through any given corner at much higher speeds.
Example: Let's say your S2000 is capable of .9 g laterally. If you put functional wings on the car (FRONT AND REAR! I don't want to get into the performance down-grades of the retarded wings people are putting on their cars...that's something for another forum) that were capable of giving an evenly distibuted 1 g (at some particular speed) in downforce your S2000 just became capable of 1.8 g laterally. This translates into roughly 40% faster corner speed (increase in speed is a function of the square root of the increase in lateral g). Used to be limited to 60MPH in your favorite twisty? Now you can do 84. NICE!
If a bike could generate this kind of downforce the machines would again be equally capable.
...I have run on here haven't I...
The greatest performance advantage that an F1 car has over any motorcycle is not the brakes (directly) or the contact patch (directly) it's the downforce they generate. The downforce increases the force the tires put on the pavement (some of which results in a larger contact patch) which in turn allows the tire to generate higher cornering, braking and on-throttle traction. An F1 car is going to be able to brake later, get on the gas sooner and run through any given corner at much higher speeds.
Example: Let's say your S2000 is capable of .9 g laterally. If you put functional wings on the car (FRONT AND REAR! I don't want to get into the performance down-grades of the retarded wings people are putting on their cars...that's something for another forum) that were capable of giving an evenly distibuted 1 g (at some particular speed) in downforce your S2000 just became capable of 1.8 g laterally. This translates into roughly 40% faster corner speed (increase in speed is a function of the square root of the increase in lateral g). Used to be limited to 60MPH in your favorite twisty? Now you can do 84. NICE!
If a bike could generate this kind of downforce the machines would again be equally capable.
...I have run on here haven't I...
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