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Old 08-12-2011, 10:53 AM
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The ridgeline will be decimated in the coming years by the turbo V6s from ford. The new fords get better gas mileage, have better towing, etc.

I don't think it's a matter of honda getting worse as it is just everyone else is getting much better. Honda really needs to get some decent tires on their cars. that would fix these stopping distance issues.
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Honda really needs to get some decent tires on their cars. that would fix these stopping distance issues.
Agreed. $50-100 on better tires would not only improve handling and stopping distances, but probably reduce road noise as well.
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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k
Originally Posted by dombey' timestamp='1313077913' post='20868554
Honda is just milking it at this point. They used to be clawing and scratching for market share, now they are past that phase. Now it is difficult to make the math work for big investments or big risks...they keep selling their share without the investment/risk and they know taking those risks won't pay off financially. You really think they would have sold more cars if the brakes were better? Doubt it...at least not enough more to cover the cost increases.
It is going to require evidence that their complacency is producing substantial negative impact on their business before they start getting aggressive again.
In other words they're now the GM of 30-40 years ago.
Damn you beat me to that one ! I was gonna say that declining quality reminded me of the cost cutting world champions at GM .
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Originally Posted by Silverstreak HX
Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k' timestamp='1313171263' post='20872392
[quote name='dombey' timestamp='1313077913' post='20868554']
Honda is just milking it at this point. They used to be clawing and scratching for market share, now they are past that phase. Now it is difficult to make the math work for big investments or big risks...they keep selling their share without the investment/risk and they know taking those risks won't pay off financially. You really think they would have sold more cars if the brakes were better? Doubt it...at least not enough more to cover the cost increases.
It is going to require evidence that their complacency is producing substantial negative impact on their business before they start getting aggressive again.
In other words they're now the GM of 30-40 years ago.
Damn you beat me to that one ! I was gonna say that declining quality reminded me of the cost cutting world champions at GM .
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Well perhaps your problem is just that your slow
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Originally Posted by rockville
Originally Posted by Silverstreak HX' timestamp='1313576116' post='20885681
[quote name='WolfpackS2k' timestamp='1313171263' post='20872392']
[quote name='dombey' timestamp='1313077913' post='20868554']
Honda is just milking it at this point. They used to be clawing and scratching for market share, now they are past that phase. Now it is difficult to make the math work for big investments or big risks...they keep selling their share without the investment/risk and they know taking those risks won't pay off financially. You really think they would have sold more cars if the brakes were better? Doubt it...at least not enough more to cover the cost increases.
It is going to require evidence that their complacency is producing substantial negative impact on their business before they start getting aggressive again.
In other words they're now the GM of 30-40 years ago.
Damn you beat me to that one ! I was gonna say that declining quality reminded me of the cost cutting world champions at GM .
[/quote]

Well perhaps your problem is just that your slow
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If you are going to make fun of someone at least get "you're" correct.
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Originally Posted by s2kpdx01
Originally Posted by rockville' timestamp='1313588774' post='20886042
[quote name='Silverstreak HX' timestamp='1313576116' post='20885681']
[quote name='WolfpackS2k' timestamp='1313171263' post='20872392']
[quote name='dombey' timestamp='1313077913' post='20868554']
Honda is just milking it at this point. They used to be clawing and scratching for market share, now they are past that phase. Now it is difficult to make the math work for big investments or big risks...they keep selling their share without the investment/risk and they know taking those risks won't pay off financially. You really think they would have sold more cars if the brakes were better? Doubt it...at least not enough more to cover the cost increases.
It is going to require evidence that their complacency is producing substantial negative impact on their business before they start getting aggressive again.
In other words they're now the GM of 30-40 years ago.
Damn you beat me to that one ! I was gonna say that declining quality reminded me of the cost cutting world champions at GM .
[/quote]

Well perhaps your problem is just that your slow
[/quote]

If you are going to make fun of someone at least get "you're" correct.
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Your correct of course.
Then again, fast typing and making a common grammatical mistake is hardly the same as being dumb enough to claim Honda's F1 program invented wishbone suspension
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