Check out BMW's new M3 entry into ALMS series!
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Damn, that thing is SICK!!!!! Like I just stated in the 335i milage thread, these cars (335i and M) are beginning to appeal more and more to me with each passing month!
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Originally Posted by tylorweaver,Feb 6 2008, 08:30 PM
It's probably more practical for them to use on the production race car, being all they'd have to do is utilize their purpose built suspension/drivetrain parts to make the car competitive, adjustable, and more efficient to remove/install during or between heats or races..
I'm not a 100% full-blooded Bimmer enthusiast, being that I've never owned one (always wanted one..lol), but I know enough about bmw's to hang around my cousin (avid ///M owner-nut) and my other bmw-owning friends... But, it's to my better knowledge that the E92 M3 and the other 3series 2dr chassis', etc, are all one in the same...??? correct?? I'm using this methodology from past M models... IE; E30/36/46 M3's... the other 3series 2drs (and sedans in some cases), shared the same chassis' as their M-counterparts...? perhaps BMW changed something along the line?? hahaha.. but, maybe not... just drawing a conclusion... but Saki, I believe that regardless, whether or not its not a chassis from an E92 M3, it is still the same chassis as the regular 335i, (or whatever the other 2dr, newer 3series models are)... and that its more than likely that it doesn't use M3 suspension either, probably re-engineered suspension/drivetrain stuff.. but.. anywho... hahahaha
bleh, whatever...
either way, its a badass car... and I'd love to drive one and get paid to! lol
[/rant] just my $.02 hahaha, thought I'd share
I'm not a 100% full-blooded Bimmer enthusiast, being that I've never owned one (always wanted one..lol), but I know enough about bmw's to hang around my cousin (avid ///M owner-nut) and my other bmw-owning friends... But, it's to my better knowledge that the E92 M3 and the other 3series 2dr chassis', etc, are all one in the same...??? correct?? I'm using this methodology from past M models... IE; E30/36/46 M3's... the other 3series 2drs (and sedans in some cases), shared the same chassis' as their M-counterparts...? perhaps BMW changed something along the line?? hahaha.. but, maybe not... just drawing a conclusion... but Saki, I believe that regardless, whether or not its not a chassis from an E92 M3, it is still the same chassis as the regular 335i, (or whatever the other 2dr, newer 3series models are)... and that its more than likely that it doesn't use M3 suspension either, probably re-engineered suspension/drivetrain stuff.. but.. anywho... hahahaha
bleh, whatever...
either way, its a badass car... and I'd love to drive one and get paid to! lol
[/rant] just my $.02 hahaha, thought I'd share
manufacturers love to throw around terms like "based on" and racing organizations muddy the water further by saying "based on" and so forth to mean all kinds of things. for example the speed source mazda rx8 is "based on the production rx8" and what they mean is it's a freaking tube frame car that just so happens to look like an rx8. lol.
anyhow, in the past BMW motorsports has built homologated chassis for the the ALMS (and other series as well) and it comes in body in white form meaning that teams that wish to race the cars dont walk into the dealership and buy an M3 and then gut it, they buy a car from bmw motorsports which comes unassembled for the most part but with a complete (and completely badass) roll cage. whether or not BMW uses a regular 3 series chassis or an M3 chassis could easily be answered by knowing whether or not there is a difference in the bare unibody. if the m3 chassis has some significant differences then that;s likely what they are going with. however, if the only real differences are in removable parts then it's likely they are just using the base chassis in it's primitive state effectively meaning that it's a 3 series chassis irrespective of trim level.
and yes you are totally right about the suspension. the alms gt2 class allows for custom control arms and uprights and obviously custom spring/ damper setups. it still has to retain factory configuration (no converting it to an inboard suspension design for example). you must retain the factory suspension pick up points.
i personally feel that the ALMS GT2 class represents the ultimate form of GT racing. they are all true blue production cars and they all run with the same rules and the only form of equalization really is the use of engine restrictors and minimum weights based on displacement, and with teh exception of removing material to add roll cages and whatnot, the chassis has to remain uncut with the exception of being able to swap out anything that unbolts (which in teh case of the ferrari f430 is freaking everything lol) and to cut away material for fender flares. now compare this to the speed world challenge where you get minimum weight requirements based on the individual car, certain exceptions for suspension modifications for some cars that other cars dont get, etc. etc. The alms pretty says "here is the same set of rules for everyone may the best team win" and i like that.
this year is going to be and exciting year for the ALMS gt2 class. there is going to be so many cars. There will be a couple ford gt's, some corvettes, and some other stuff i'm forgetting. it's about time we get to see some corvettes in the class.
furthermore, having spent about an hour drooling and obsessing over the e46 alms m3 i cant wait to see this thing in person. BMW really puts a ton of engineering into their rollcage designs for the body in white cars they build and this one has some distinct differences between the last ones which i think is fairly indicative of the advancements in the increase in strength and torsional rigidity since teh last chassis. in the e36 they had major cage components back to the c pillar and the e46 version did not due to the increase in chassis strength, and now this one comes out with the front butresses isolated from the a pillars and i cant help but think that is because they found a way to make it just as stiff without tying the tow together.
good stuff.
p.s. im very tired so sorry if i just wrote a bunch of run on sentence jibberish. expect a revision tommorrow morning. lol.
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