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Old 02-22-2007, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sfkn2,Feb 22 2007, 02:09 PM
Toyota has been rated with a higher reliability rating than Honda..
Yea....but they are both behind Hyundai!

USA Today.....Hyundai beats Toyota and Honda-Initial Quality rankings
Old 02-22-2007, 05:04 PM
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Thanks for the link Acumo!

That Newcelica.org thread is like 1/2 year old. But if you get to page 2, you'll see that someone recognized that same car as one that burst in flames while streetracing in South Philly...

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showth...ighlight=celica
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The owner finds that thread, and that's where the fun starts.

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Old 02-22-2007, 05:26 PM
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[QUOTE=Cubs2k,Feb 22 2007, 04:18 PM] Yea....but they are both behind Hyundai!
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Originally Posted by mintswack,Feb 22 2007, 06:26 PM
"Quality" and "Reliability" are two different things. I believe when it comes to reliability, Lexus, Toyota and Honda are the top 3. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
you are wrong. Mercury is two, and Buick is three.

2006 Nameplate Ranking
Problems per 100 Vehicles

Lexus 136
Mercury 151
Buick 153
Cadillac 163
Toyota 179
Acura 184
Honda 194
Jaguar 210
BMW 212
Infiniti 215
Lincoln 220
Ford 224
Oldsmobile 224
Old 02-23-2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Anrosphynx,Feb 23 2007, 09:55 AM
you are wrong. Mercury is two, and Buick is three.

2006 Nameplate Ranking
Problems per 100 Vehicles

Lexus 136
Mercury 151
Buick 153
Cadillac 163
Toyota 179
Acura 184
Honda 194
Jaguar 210
BMW 212
Infiniti 215
Lincoln 220
Ford 224
Oldsmobile 224
"While certain U.S. companies, such as General Motors' General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ) Buick subsidiary, are building increasingly dependable cars, only three brands--Honda Motor (nyse: HMC - news - people ), Toyota Motor (nyse: TM - news - people ) and Toyota
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[QUOTE=mintswack,Feb 23 2007, 11:10 AM] "While certain U.S. companies, such as General Motors' General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ) Buick subsidiary, are building increasingly dependable cars, only three brands--Honda Motor (nyse: HMC - news - people ), Toyota Motor (nyse: TM - news - people ) and Toyota
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[QUOTE=kumainu,Feb 22 2007, 04:46 PM]One time, a Honda dealership changed my S2000's oil and completely forgot to put the cap back on.
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Originally Posted by Anrosphynx,Feb 23 2007, 12:25 PM
Perennial winner Lexus took the top spot again this year in the J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability study, but U.S. brands Mercury, Buick and Cadillac filled out the top four.

The J.D. Power Vehicle Dependability Study, which was released today, scores cars based on the number of problems owners have with vehicles that are three years old. Its rankings are based on survey responses from about 48,000 owners of 2003 model-year vehicles. Cars are scored based on the number of problems per 100 vehicles.

Lexus is the luxury brand of Japan's Toyota Motor Co. That company's mainstream Toyota brand ranked fifth in the survey.


The top of the rankings in this year's dependability study are dominated by Japanese and American brands. Jaguar, which ranked eighth, and BMW, which ranked ninth, were the only European brands to score above average in the study.


J.D. Power 2006 Vehicle Dependability Study

Top ranking brands:

1. Lexus (Toyota), Score: 136

2. Mercury (Ford), Score: 151

3. Buick (GM), Score: 153

4. Cadillac (GM), Score: 163

5. Toyota, Score: 179

6. Acura (Honda), Score: 184

7. Honda, Score: 194

8. Jaguar (Ford), Score: 210

9. BMW, Score: 212

10. Infiniti (Nissan), Score: 215

11. Lincoln (Ford), Score: 220

12. Ford, Score: 224

13. Oldsmobile (GM), Score: 224

Average score: 227
DANG! I didn't know! Mind if you send me the link?
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Originally Posted by rockville,Feb 22 2007, 02:13 PM
Funny, when the Z06 was on fire it was "GM's fault".
Well the Z06 was not having a new engine installed at a local dealer with some 18 year old grease monkeys. Maybe thats the difference. Ignorance kills you doesn't it?
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Originally Posted by Anrosphynx,Feb 23 2007, 03:25 PM
Perennial winner Lexus took the top spot again this year in the J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability study, but U.S. brands Mercury, Buick and Cadillac filled out the top four.

The J.D. Power Vehicle Dependability Study, which was released today, scores cars based on the number of problems owners have with vehicles that are three years old. Its rankings are based on survey responses from about 48,000 owners of 2003 model-year vehicles. Cars are scored based on the number of problems per 100 vehicles.

Lexus is the luxury brand of Japan's Toyota Motor Co. That company's mainstream Toyota brand ranked fifth in the survey.


The top of the rankings in this year's dependability study are dominated by Japanese and American brands. Jaguar, which ranked eighth, and BMW, which ranked ninth, were the only European brands to score above average in the study.


J.D. Power 2006 Vehicle Dependability Study

Top ranking brands:

1. Lexus (Toyota), Score: 136

2. Mercury (Ford), Score: 151

3. Buick (GM), Score: 153

4. Cadillac (GM), Score: 163

5. Toyota, Score: 179

6. Acura (Honda), Score: 184

7. Honda, Score: 194

8. Jaguar (Ford), Score: 210

9. BMW, Score: 212

10. Infiniti (Nissan), Score: 215

11. Lincoln (Ford), Score: 220

12. Ford, Score: 224

13. Oldsmobile (GM), Score: 224

Average score: 227
Revise the list after 5 years of ownership.

Top 3 Reliable brands are

1.Toyota
2.Honda
3.Porsche

I couldn't believe it either that Porsche actually made it so high in the list. I will post link to this results, and they are not just 1 year tests, they are long time based tests.
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