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Old 05-07-2007 | 10:55 AM
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a friend brought his brand new toy by for me to drool over...



nice car, sounds good, and great top end!!

and boy those wheels get dirty from wheel dust fast-





forgot to ask which m.y. this is- darn!!
Old 05-07-2007 | 05:05 PM
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It's a 997 C4 Cabrio.

A little heavy and not so sporty, but a practical all-season car.

It's nice, but not really a "sports car" IMHO.

Kind of like an E46 M3 Cabrio.

I'd personally delete a sunroof and get a GT3 or Cayman S, but to each their own.
Old 05-07-2007 | 05:07 PM
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One car really cannot do it all.

It's all about compromise.

Off Porsche's website: stripped down is $88,000 MSRP, 325hp and 0-60 in 5.1 seconds. Yawn.

I personally would smirk and roll my eyes if I lined up next to this guy in either our RS4 or SC S2k... then wave buh-buy.

What kind of message does an all-wheel drive, small engined convertible say?

1. Can't afford a larger engine.
2. Can't appreciate a larger engine.
3. Can't appreciate increased sport and structural rigidity
4. Need to drive it all year round because no luxury "practical" car available

Anyone else have thoughts?
Old 05-07-2007 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CKit,May 7 2007, 08:07 PM
One car really cannot do it all.

It's all about compromise.

Off Porsche's website: stripped down is $88,000 MSRP, 325hp and 0-60 in 5.1 seconds. Yawn.

I personally would smirk and roll my eyes if I lined up next to this guy in either our RS4 or SC S2k... then wave buh-buy.

What kind of message does an all-wheel drive, small engined convertible say?

1. Can't afford a larger engine.
2. Can't appreciate a larger engine.
3. Can't appreciate increased sport and structural rigidity
4. Need to drive it all year round because no luxury "practical" car available

Anyone else have thoughts?

or perhaps:

5. none of the above choices, since all 4 could easily be wrong.





Old 05-07-2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cbehney,May 7 2007, 05:23 PM

or perhaps:

5. none of the above choices, since all 4 could easily be wrong.
Sure, of course all 4 could be wrong.

But I'm talking about what impression does it give, not what that person's actual reality is.

If a shady-looking guy comes walking towards you in a dark alley, he might be a poor starving graduate student coming home from a late night in the lab... but that wouldn't be my first assumption.

And the guy driving with no seatbelt in a rusted-out bucket of bolts might be the IKEA CEO... but probably not.
Old 05-07-2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cbehney,May 7 2007, 05:23 PM

or perhaps:

5. none of the above choices, since all 4 could easily be wrong.
Curious to hear other #5's, as I still don't know why anyone would buy that particular configuration of vehicle.

Maybe he has an Exige S as a track car? But I still don't know who would spend $100k on a car and not just spend $115k to upgrade. Unless the extra hp doesn't mean anything to him... which would fit with not minding the extra heft of the AWD and the cabrio.

Was it a tiptronic?
Old 05-07-2007 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CKit,May 7 2007, 08:29 PM
Sure, of course all 4 could be wrong.

But I'm talking about what impression does it give, not what that person's actual reality is.

If a shady-looking guy comes walking towards you in a dark alley, he might be a poor starving graduate student coming home from a late night in the lab... but that wouldn't be my first assumption.

And the guy driving with no seatbelt in a rusted-out bucket of bolts might be the IKEA CEO... but probably not.

No, I think I got your point, even agree with much of it. I just meant that if you read reviews of the C4 and read the posts on 6speedonline, there's a whole lot of people who like the handling of the 4, and there's a debate about whether the extra 35 hp is worth the $10K extra or whatever it is.

You get an actual sportscar (sorry to the above poster), you get faster 0-60 than S2000 (not SC, I know), a good looking car (not in silver though in my opinion), good handling, you get the Porsche badge, a decent interior, etc.

So I'm just saying that a lot of people might disagree with any of the 4 things you listed. Though I'm pretty sure the president of IKEA would either have the S upgrade, or maybe a SAAB....


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It's a gray haired man in a 911 cab (with tiptronic?) - the vast majority of Carrera sales are that kind of car to that kind of guy.

Lay off cuz when you have the midlife crisis you may find yourself hankering for the same thing.
Old 05-07-2007 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wanabe,May 7 2007, 10:55 AM
a friend brought his brand new toy by for me to drool over...



nice car, sounds good, and great top end!!

and boy those wheels get dirty from wheel dust fast-





forgot to ask which m.y. this is- darn!!
Beautiful Car.
Old 05-07-2007 | 05:45 PM
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[QUOTE=cbehney,May 7 2007, 05:37 PM] Though I'm pretty sure the president of IKEA would either have the S upgrade, or maybe a SAAB....


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