Gymkata

http://blog.caranddriver.com/why-hon...deep-thoughts/

JonBoy, don't kill me.

Duke Togo

The whole GM bailout was a scam - after the airline industry imploded in the mid 00's they were able to heavily renegotiate union contracts - seeing this GM and several others started talking bankruptcy to which at that time the President said they needed to build more relevant cars - of course shortly before he left office he changed his tune and bailed them out as well.

When you look at the numbers of cars sold GM is at and has been at record numbers - there partnership with Cherry in China produces about a million cars a month. They are just getting into the global greed game with both feet. Investment banks and stockholders are demanding increased profit margins even with record income. That can only come through wage reductions and efficiencies. People are easy to reduce.

Silverstreak HX

I keep thinking of GM and trying to figure out exactly which model it was . Was it the Vega or Chevette, or Citation ,or was it Saturn that really served up Stage 5? Or could it have been the Cavalier Cadillac?

JonBoy

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/956...#entry21760149

I'm already beating up some other people.

rockville

As always your cluelessness shows through. The Vega would be somewhere between 1 and 2. The Vega SHOULD have been a great car as it really had so many things right. However, the arrogance of GM at the time kept had them believing they had thoroughly tested the car. They hadn't and hence the infamous rust and engine problems that killed what should have been a world beating small car. That is more like a stage 1 failure. The stage 2 part is that instead of figuring out WHY the car failed and fixing it, GM just assumed it was some strange fluke. Had GM thought about why the car had so many mechanical problems and then attacked those failure points the company might not have lived through the bad years of the late 70s and into the 80s.

You of course are also wrong about 5. GM ironically didn't die due to bad products at the time of it's death. No, around the time of the collapse GM's product line was generally good with a few bright spots and some great stuff waiting in the wings. GM failed because of a debt crisis that hit them like a tidal wave. Ironically at the time of the bankruptcy they were anything but irrelevant except perhaps to those who are too stupid to actually bother thinking and who themselves live in the denial of GM that were, not GM products that are current. You know, that 1994 Hyundai was a POS. I can't see that company going anywhere.

vader1

Is #4 referring to the new NSX?


HEY EVERYBODY DID YOUR HEAR ABOUT THE NEW NSX??????????? I did not see the last 500 threads about one over the years.