C6 vs Kraftworks High Boost S2k
12-27-2007, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Dec 27 2007, 05:16 PM
Very true since drag racing does, indeed, include off the line and "down low" power.
Yes, a stock S2000 can pull on a stock Evo from a roll. The stock Evo turbo runs out of "breathe" after ~6K.
I think that all three cars are great and perform well in terms of their manufacturered purpose. I am grateful to own two of the three, and cannot wait to add the third to my stable! LOL!
12-27-2007, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2QYK4U,Dec 27 2007, 07:27 PM
Having a significant amount of more torque is also a big advantage in autocrossing and road racing (depending on track layout). Also, while peak numbers are cool bragging points, power curves are even more meaningful and if you look at the torque and horsepower curve of an Evo it is much better than an S2000. The same is true when comparing a C6, like the OP is trying to do, to an S2000.
Yes, a stock S2000 can pull on a stock Evo from a roll. The stock Evo turbo runs out of "breathe" after ~6K.
I think that all three cars are great and perform well in terms of their manufacturered purpose. I am grateful to own two of the three, and cannot wait to add the third to my stable! LOL!
Yes, a stock S2000 can pull on a stock Evo from a roll. The stock Evo turbo runs out of "breathe" after ~6K.
I think that all three cars are great and perform well in terms of their manufacturered purpose. I am grateful to own two of the three, and cannot wait to add the third to my stable! LOL!
12-27-2007, 03:40 PM
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So am I to conclude that the general opinion is the Kraftwerks High Boost kit is pretty much a 
? "If you want a faster car buy a faster car " as the saying goes?
? "If you want a faster car buy a faster car " as the saying goes?
12-27-2007, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by archtop,Dec 27 2007, 05:40 PM
So am I to conclude that the general opinion is the Kraftwerks High Boost kit is pretty much a ? "If you want a faster car buy a faster car " as the saying goes?
? "If you want a faster car buy a faster car " as the saying goes?The S2000 was built for a specific purpose and does well with that in mind. However, in order to make it competitive in other arenas, such as drag racing, drastic modifications need to be made and you half to be willing to make sacrifices.
12-27-2007, 04:25 PM
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Actually drag racing has little to do with low down power and torque. I work on several competitive drag cars and in all of them power below 6500 is useless. I understand this won't apply to all cars but the concept is the same. You want to launch the car and get it to the peak horsepower as fast as you can for as long as you can. For the S2000 my best launches have been above the VTEC changeover, and the revs never drop out of it. If the car made zero horsepower up to 6000rpm it wouldn't matter because it isn't being used. Having never launched an Evo I will assume it is like most other all wheel drive cars, launch as high in the rev band as you dare and hope for the best. If you can't spin the tires then power down low may come into play as you don't make enough power to get up to the peak right away. The "bogged" launch of AWD cars is more often than not made up for the added traction. Still you are never really below 3500. Having to spin the tires slightly is neccesary but in the S2000 you have to spin them to the detriment of ET. You have the opposite problem with any LS motored car. You are traction limited, they have so much power everywhere that you have to be careful not to smoke the tires on the launch. Launch anywhere above 3500 and you should be okay, but this can be very dependent on track temp and prep. On a sticky "National Event" track you can launch higher, on a greasy Friday night it might be lower.
I believe power down low is much more useful in autocrossing and road racing. With slower corners you need that power down low and all the power under the curve you can get to pull away because you use the full rev range. In drag racing the small rev range that you use that power down low is rather unimportant. It is much more about getting to peak and staying there.
I believe power down low is much more useful in autocrossing and road racing. With slower corners you need that power down low and all the power under the curve you can get to pull away because you use the full rev range. In drag racing the small rev range that you use that power down low is rather unimportant. It is much more about getting to peak and staying there.
12-27-2007, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wills2k106,Dec 27 2007, 06:25 PM
Actually drag racing has little to do with low down power and torque. I work on several competitive drag cars and in all of them power below 6500 is useless. I understand this won't apply to all cars but the concept is the same. You want to launch the car and get it to the peak horsepower as fast as you can for as long as you can. For the S2000 my best launches have been above the VTEC changeover, and the revs never drop out of it. If the car made zero horsepower up to 6000rpm it wouldn't matter because it isn't being used. Having never launched an Evo I will assume it is like most other all wheel drive cars, launch as high in the rev band as you dare and hope for the best. If you can't spin the tires then power down low may come into play as you don't make enough power to get up to the peak right away. The "bogged" launch of AWD cars is more often than not made up for the added traction. Still you are never really below 3500. Having to spin the tires slightly is neccesary but in the S2000 you have to spin them to the detriment of ET. You have the opposite problem with any LS motored car. You are traction limited, they have so much power everywhere that you have to be careful not to smoke the tires on the launch. Launch anywhere above 3500 and you should be okay, but this can be very dependent on track temp and prep. On a sticky "National Event" track you can launch higher, on a greasy Friday night it might be lower.
I believe power down low is much more useful in autocrossing and road racing. With slower corners you need that power down low and all the power under the curve you can get to pull away because you use the full rev range. In drag racing the small rev range that you use that power down low is rather unimportant. It is much more about getting to peak and staying there.
I believe power down low is much more useful in autocrossing and road racing. With slower corners you need that power down low and all the power under the curve you can get to pull away because you use the full rev range. In drag racing the small rev range that you use that power down low is rather unimportant. It is much more about getting to peak and staying there.
12-27-2007, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by archtop,Dec 27 2007, 06:40 PM
So am I to conclude that the general opinion is the Kraftwerks High Boost kit is pretty much a ? "If you want a faster car buy a faster car " as the saying goes?
? "If you want a faster car buy a faster car " as the saying goes?
12-28-2007, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 2QYK4U,Dec 27 2007, 11:21 AM
Passing isn't normally allowed on corners--only straight-aways.
12-28-2007, 09:19 AM
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I go to speed trial usa. But showing that video really doesn't show anything compare to a high boosted s2k. Of course if you run a boosted s2k, you should run a wider contact patch to put the power down. Also upgrading brakes to slow down the car. I'm pretty sure with a wider contact patch would also increase your skid pad numbers.
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