Buffet says all cars will be electric in 20yrs
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With the heavy metals and toxic wastes used to manufacture batteries and lacking drivable range on electric cars, I wouldn't discount hydrogen. It is abundant and clean. Technology will inevitably make it work efficiently and available to the masses.
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Originally Posted by Onehots2k,Dec 1 2009, 12:40 PM
His investment firm made a $230 million investment over a year ago in BYD, a Chinese battery maker with a newfound focus on electric cars"
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Meanwhile they are heavily energy dependent on the rest of the world, they have relatively poor internal transport facilities, they are heavily dependent on exports to survive, and they are still having a tough time with basic manufacturing quality assurance. They've got a ways to go, and they'll get there, but it's going to be messy for quite a while yet.
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Originally Posted by cyde01,Dec 1 2009, 06:26 PM
the tesla roadster gets 230 miles per charge and costs about 2 cents per mile to operate. my s2k gets about 325 miles per tank and costs 12 cents per mile for gas, which is about $2.91 a gallon premium in socal. that's 6x more expensive, and doesn't include regular maintenance like oil changes that the tesla does not need. having a tesla model s as a DD and s2k as a weekend fun car would be ideal, imo.
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[QUOTE=JonBoy,Dec 1 2009, 11:59 PM]Meanwhile they are heavily energy dependent on the rest of the world, they have relatively poor internal transport facilities, they are heavily dependent on exports to survive, and they are still having a tough time with basic manufacturing quality assurance.
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Let's keep this investment in the proper perspective.
Buffet is on his way to the grave. He's almost 80 years old. Buffet is also a big time philanthropist. Do you think he went all in because he thinks electric cars would take off and make money in doing so? Or do you think he went all in because he wants electric cars to take off?
Buffet appears to be a good person. I don't know him personally so I can't say he is a good person. I wouldn't call this a straight business deal. It seems to be more of a philanthropic endeavor. However, it's very likely he will make money from this.
Buffet is on his way to the grave. He's almost 80 years old. Buffet is also a big time philanthropist. Do you think he went all in because he thinks electric cars would take off and make money in doing so? Or do you think he went all in because he wants electric cars to take off?
Buffet appears to be a good person. I don't know him personally so I can't say he is a good person. I wouldn't call this a straight business deal. It seems to be more of a philanthropic endeavor. However, it's very likely he will make money from this.
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Originally Posted by cyde01,Dec 1 2009, 04:26 PM
the tesla roadster gets 230 miles per charge and costs about 2 cents per mile to operate. my s2k gets about 325 miles per tank and costs 12 cents per mile for gas, which is about $2.91 a gallon premium in socal. that's 6x more expensive, and doesn't include regular maintenance like oil changes that the tesla does not need. having a tesla model s as a DD and s2k as a weekend fun car would be ideal, imo.
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Dec 1 2009, 07:59 PM
Meanwhile they are heavily energy dependent on the rest of the world, they have relatively poor internal transport facilities, they are heavily dependent on exports to survive, and they are still having a tough time with basic manufacturing quality assurance. They've got a ways to go, and they'll get there, but it's going to be messy for quite a while yet.
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Originally Posted by ltswb,Dec 1 2009, 09:26 PM
The Tesla costs 60,000 more than the Elise. If the Elise cost the same 12 cents a mile as the S2000, then you would have to drive the Tesla 600,000 miles to recoup the cost. Considering the Elise handles better, has better balance, has so far proven more reliable, and doesn't require more than a couple of minutes of downtime to refuel, you would be a fool to pick a Tesla over it.