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BMW Unveils new Bi-Turbo V8 Engine: N64

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Old 12-31-2007, 07:20 AM
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This engine is going to be really sick in what ever it's going to be in.. Maybe BMW has is cooking up something to dethrone some of the AMG cars
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Maybe some sort of scoop or shaker-type hood for airflow in the vee? Very unusual packaging.
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Few Facts:

This is the first eight-cylinder gasoline engine in the world to feature its turbocharger in the V-section between the two rows of cylinders.

The new V8 engine with Twin Turbo technology and direct gasoline injection, is likewise making its world debut in the BMW X6. Displacing 4.4 liters, this eight-cylinder with maximum engine output of 400 hp and peak torque of 450 lb-ft available over an unusually large range of engine speed from 1,800
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Dec 31 2007, 06:47 AM
BMW knows what they're doing but I'm wondering about all that heat in in the vee of the motor. You've got exhaust (very hot), spinning turbos (also hot), and not a lot of space there. Just wondering what that's going to do in the long run. It's going to be hot in there, that's for sure!
That placement will radiate less heat in the engine bay. The surface area is responsible for the heat load in the engine bay, and those small manifolds make for less area. That means heat will be less. The heat is also already high, so it won't heat the intake side of things. One would hope that the engine would be well insulated
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Originally Posted by ebeldesign,Dec 31 2007, 02:57 AM
If I am interpreting the cutaway model right, is the exhaust dumping into the engine V? And the intake is down where the exhaust ports usually are? That is very clever packaging if so.
Was thinking the exact same thing!
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect,Dec 31 2007, 12:55 AM
Wow, that engine is going to sit really low. Hmm, tuneability is gong to be an issue I imagine as there looks to be no real option for an intercooler...
I dunno...what are those small boxes at the front of the engine in the intake stream? The look like small intercoolers.
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Originally Posted by Onehots2k,Dec 31 2007, 11:30 AM
That placement will radiate less heat in the engine bay. The surface area is responsible for the heat load in the engine bay, and those small manifolds make for less area. That means heat will be less. The heat is also already high, so it won't heat the intake side of things. One would hope that the engine would be well insulated
It may radiate less heat to the engine bay but what about the effect on the engine itself, as well as the turbos? You've got two exhaust manifolds at about 1200*F (maybe more) and two turbos spinning at tens of thousands of rpm in a fairly small volume. It's going to get hotter in there than it would if the turbos and manifolds were on the outside like a common V8. You won't get very much natural air flow in there so they must be relying solely on the water cooling to reduce the temps sufficiently.

Again, as I said, BMW knows what they're doing. I'm just very interested to see how they're managing heat in such a small space. I think this also means that you're not going to be able to up the boost or put in bigger turbos without some serious issues or modifications.
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So this is going to be the next ultimate BMW tuner mod




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Originally Posted by ebeldesign,Dec 31 2007, 12:57 AM
If I am interpreting the cutaway model right, is the exhaust dumping into the engine V? And the intake is down where the exhaust ports usually are? That is very clever packaging if so.
Notice the press release says first "gas" engine with this packaging. GM has already released the design of their new Duramax in this configuration. Looks like BMW just "borrowed" it for this gas version..


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