BMW M2
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As I mentioned in the Camaro thread, I drove an 8-speed Camaro SS this weekend and it's the real deal. It's a sports car now trapped in a muscle car body. Besides visibility issues (not as bad as I expected) and a clunky big pair of doors, the car is really, really nice overall. It's drives like an ATS-V with a 455hp small block LT1 V8 for $47k loaded out with magnetic suspension, dual mode exhaust, 2SS package (all the interior goodies), sunroof, and 8-speed clicky smooth fast shifts up and down. I loved it.
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You think interior styling, build quality and materials of a Camaro SS is even close to the same league as a M3? Performance wise sure the Camaro is impressive for the price but I don't know about you but 99% of the time I'm not driving my cars balls out. I'm in the same camp where I wouldn't buy a Camaro SS if it was 15K new, it's ugly and has no class at all.
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Originally Posted by hirev' timestamp='1460408117' post='23934920
My understanding is that all the m2 cars are spoken for this year before they were built! I have just ordered a m3 and hope to get it within 90 days, will post a report on it then.
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I don't know why, but I just can't get that excited about it. Whereas I loved the 1M and wished I was in a position to buy one at the time (partly because I KNEW they would go up in value!). I think some of it comes down to the styling. It's not bad, just not... great. To me it's the least-cool-looking M car (SUVs excluded) since... actually, I can't even think of one right now.
The 1M, Z3 M Coupe, and Z4 M Coupe all look like accidents, but in a cool way. While M3s and M5s have always looked muscular and athletic. Somehow the M2 misses the mark for me. It's not bad... just not great.
The 1M, Z3 M Coupe, and Z4 M Coupe all look like accidents, but in a cool way. While M3s and M5s have always looked muscular and athletic. Somehow the M2 misses the mark for me. It's not bad... just not great.
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower' timestamp='1460475064' post='23935720
I'm in the same camp where I wouldn't buy a Camaro SS if it was 15K new, it's ugly and has no class at all.
The goofy-ass colors BMW picked for the M3/4 don't help but I personally would not use the word "classless" in the right color. Easter egg blue and metallic snot are not my favorite colors from BMW.
But I am perfectly willing to admit, I am a damn yuppie. I like euro styling, and can even appreciate Caddys. But anything that goes for the "That thing got a Hemi" image from those commercials with the toothless burger flippers I want nothing to do with. Same as I want nothing to do with anything that looks like it stepped out of a Fast and Furious movie.
That may sound snobby, but I work hard for my money as much as the next guy and if I am going to plunk down forty, fifty or sixty thousand for a car, I don't want the one littering trailer parks three years down the road or the one on the "most likely to be repossessed" list.
Funny thing is, I used to be a Japanese car only guy because of the solid product they make. It is now so boring, and has been for so long I won't even walk into a show room.
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Originally Posted by Chris Stack' timestamp='1460475451' post='23935731
[quote name='CosmosMpower' timestamp='1460475064' post='23935720']
I'm in the same camp where I wouldn't buy a Camaro SS if it was 15K new, it's ugly and has no class at all.
I'm in the same camp where I wouldn't buy a Camaro SS if it was 15K new, it's ugly and has no class at all.
The goofy-ass colors BMW picked for the M3/4 don't help but I personally would not use the word "classless" in the right color. Easter egg blue and metallic snot are not my favorite colors from BMW.[/quote]
It's the horrific front bumpers on the M-cars that does it for me.
But I am perfectly willing to admit, I am a damn yuppie. I like euro styling, and can even appreciate Caddys. But anything that goes for the "That thing got a Hemi" image from those commercials with the toothless burger flippers I want nothing to do with. Same as I want nothing to do with anything that looks like it stepped out of a Fast and Furious movie.
That may sound snobby, but I work hard for my money as much as the next guy and if I am going to plunk down forty, fifty or sixty thousand for a car, I don't want the one littering trailer parks three years down the road or the one on the "most likely to be repossessed" list.
Funny thing is, I used to be a Japanese car only guy because of the solid product they make. It is now so boring, and has been for so long I won't even walk into a show room.
That may sound snobby, but I work hard for my money as much as the next guy and if I am going to plunk down forty, fifty or sixty thousand for a car, I don't want the one littering trailer parks three years down the road or the one on the "most likely to be repossessed" list.
Funny thing is, I used to be a Japanese car only guy because of the solid product they make. It is now so boring, and has been for so long I won't even walk into a show room.
It's shallow, but when I'm dropping my daughter off at her preschool and all the other yoga-pants-clad yummy mummys are getting in and out of MB/BMW/Lexus SUVs, I can feel like my aging 4y/o TSX is at least sorta in the mix, at least I'm not the dad dropping his kid off in the Civic Si or F-250 (both are present, and nice dudes).
I'm torn between going uber-yuppie with a Model 3, saying F It I'm Having Fun with a Mustang GT (in a muted color), and being boring as hell with another stupid Acura.
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