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Old 05-02-2006, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kpdx01,May 2 2006, 10:45 AM
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...24/TOC01ARCHIVE

Interesting. I figured it was real, but this is actual confirmation. Requiring a driving class is probably a good idea. I hope they find a way to get the 600+HP out of a non-SC engine, but they probably won't. Either way very cool. They had better fix the damn brakes though. No cross drilled rotors or weird calipers with taper problems. Just give me some huge iron blanks and 8 pistons up front and 4 or 6 in the back. It will be interesting to see what the car ends up weighing.

Rumors have the mules pushing 680HP right now.
Oh come on....of course GM can get 600 all motor.....THEY'LL JUST MAKE IT A 8.0 LITRE........mmmmwwwhhaaaaa!
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All I need is 505 HP model. Maybe they will have employee pricing by then
Old 05-02-2006, 12:48 PM
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This is smart. The hp wars are overwhelming tire/suspension technology. Already you have Carrera GT's & Enzos that are hard to control by even professional drivers. Make a mistake & you are stalling or spinning out these cars...no matter how much rubber you have on the reer end. No matter how dialed in, or how big the rear tires are you simply can't contain 600-700 hp on non-R Compound, non slick tires.
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Originally Posted by Dr. WOT,May 2 2006, 01:53 PM
a low cD is great for quiet luxury cars and fuel sippers, a 600 hp beast needs aerodynamic downforce, which causes drag and kills you coeffeciency
Not necessarily true. Downforce can be made without increasing drag much, just look at F1 cars. Plus, how much downforce does a street car actually need? Minimal. As long as the car does not generate lift at speed, it's probably fine.
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No, but you can get damn near keeping it under control. I suspect we'll see some traction aids, too. Besides for 98% of all driver's out there (even most of you that AutoX) R Compounds are a waste of time, they hide driving flaws when you arent on the limits and they quickly bite and take your head off when you are driving hard.
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Our S2000 will still take it in the twisties.

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Originally Posted by pantyraider,May 2 2006, 05:57 PM
Our S2000 will still take it in the twisties.

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Originally Posted by brent_strong,May 2 2006, 02:09 PM
Not necessarily true. Downforce can be made without increasing drag much, just look at F1 cars. Plus, how much downforce does a street car actually need? Minimal. As long as the car does not generate lift at speed, it's probably fine.
F1 cars are actually a terrible example. They have VERY high cDs. I believe in some configurations they are over 1. CART was much better in recent years because they were allowed to do more with underbody aero parts. F1 rules force more of the downforce to come from things like the wings. In either case, most racecars make huge sacrifices in drag in order to generate downforce.
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I was't saying necessarily overall cD, just their aero work to create more downforce with less drag. I'm sure F1 or most any winged car's drag is much higer than a street car's cD, but the downforce gain is exponential against a street car.
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Originally Posted by brent_strong,May 2 2006, 04:44 PM
I was't saying necessarily overall cD, just their aero work to create more downforce with less drag. I'm sure F1 or most any winged car's drag is much higer than a street car's cD, but the downforce gain is exponential against a street car.
Very true.

This is a fun little bit:
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/data.html

Lots of race cars with high drag and VERY high downforce. The Nissan NPT-91 produces 9231 lbs!!!! of downforce in a high downforce configuration.


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