Been Discussed? Civic Type R
03-21-2014, 08:16 PM
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The Megane already did sub-8 minute time. That's what I'm telling you - these are seriously fast cars around a track! Megane only has 280 hp!
03-22-2014, 12:21 AM
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The Megane RS265 did 8:07 last June. Well, 8:08, give or take 3 hundreds of a second. And it was set up specifically for the run, far from stock. That is the time Honda marketing claimed to be able to beat with the new Civic Type R. But it's been almost a year and they haven't done it.
The Seat Leon Cupra 280 recently ran a 7:58.44, supposedly bone stock. At which point Honda threw in the towel, admitting they can't beat that (in the link I provided).
None of these cars are available in this country, and if they were we wouldn't buy them anyway because for the same price we can get RWD cars that deliver the same or better real-world performance right off the showroom floor.
I only posted anything because I easily tire of Honda fanboys. And I like Renault and Seat cars
03-22-2014, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy' timestamp='1395410153' post='23074014
We'll wait and see and revisit it once it's run the ring. If Honda says it'll be the fastest, one thing I know is that it will be faster than 8:07 (which was the record when they said it) and, if it beats the Megane, sub-8 minutes.
Honda isn't one to miss performance targets and I have no reason to think this one to be any different.
Honda isn't one to miss performance targets and I have no reason to think this one to be any different.
If you strip the Civic, swap to a bigger turbo, put on slicks, large wings, yeah. but stock? I don't know.
03-22-2014, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by __Ap2__s2k' timestamp='1395436360' post='23074816
Well if they wanna make a profit (we all know that's pretty much all honda cares about) then why not offer it rwd. I'm sure they'd sell more. Again, good for honda "possibly" making the fastest fwd car ever but at the end of the day, it's still fwd and lame. Imo
Don't make the civic rwd... Give us something else. And I took that shot at honda because they won't go out of their way to do anything new and exciting unless it makes a substantial profit. Which is fine but it's not like they're struggling with money. I'm not saying they should make a rwd car and intentionally lose a lot of money (chances are they wouldn't because more people would want to buy it) but if they put their time and effort into a new rwd platform it would be awesome. But they never will. I think Honda's soul died a long time ago.
03-22-2014, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Da New Yawka' timestamp='1395452376' post='23075179
[quote name='JonBoy' timestamp='1395428814' post='23074578']
You're right - makes much more sense for them to make a RWD car that definitely will NOT be the fastest in the world (will never beat a McLaren P1) instead of making the fastest FWD car that uses a high-spec engine that will be used elsewhere and is affordable by the masses, employs a current platform (albeit heavily modified) and will beat cars twice or thrice its price around a track.
Yup, they definitely weren't thinking this one through.
You're right - makes much more sense for them to make a RWD car that definitely will NOT be the fastest in the world (will never beat a McLaren P1) instead of making the fastest FWD car that uses a high-spec engine that will be used elsewhere and is affordable by the masses, employs a current platform (albeit heavily modified) and will beat cars twice or thrice its price around a track.
Yup, they definitely weren't thinking this one through.
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Its true, Pal.... Hard to swallow isnt it?
03-22-2014, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by __Ap2__s2k' timestamp='1395457280' post='23075260
[quote name='Da New Yawka' timestamp='1395452376' post='23075179']
[quote name='JonBoy' timestamp='1395428814' post='23074578']
You're right - makes much more sense for them to make a RWD car that definitely will NOT be the fastest in the world (will never beat a McLaren P1) instead of making the fastest FWD car that uses a high-spec engine that will be used elsewhere and is affordable by the masses, employs a current platform (albeit heavily modified) and will beat cars twice or thrice its price around a track.
Yup, they definitely weren't thinking this one through.
[quote name='JonBoy' timestamp='1395428814' post='23074578']
You're right - makes much more sense for them to make a RWD car that definitely will NOT be the fastest in the world (will never beat a McLaren P1) instead of making the fastest FWD car that uses a high-spec engine that will be used elsewhere and is affordable by the masses, employs a current platform (albeit heavily modified) and will beat cars twice or thrice its price around a track.
Yup, they definitely weren't thinking this one through.
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Its true, Pal.... Hard to swallow isnt it?
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Dude the cobalt had a decent time but it this isn't 2008 anymore we are talking about a whole different class now and the cobalt is buried in that group. These cars are talking 8:06 or 7:59 laps and the best the cobalt did was 8:22 big difference.
03-23-2014, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Da New Yawka' timestamp='1395532457' post='23076189
[quote name='__Ap2__s2k' timestamp='1395457280' post='23075260']
[quote name='Da New Yawka' timestamp='1395452376' post='23075179']
[quote name='JonBoy' timestamp='1395428814' post='23074578']
You're right - makes much more sense for them to make a RWD car that definitely will NOT be the fastest in the world (will never beat a McLaren P1) instead of making the fastest FWD car that uses a high-spec engine that will be used elsewhere and is affordable by the masses, employs a current platform (albeit heavily modified) and will beat cars twice or thrice its price around a track.
Yup, they definitely weren't thinking this one through.
[quote name='Da New Yawka' timestamp='1395452376' post='23075179']
[quote name='JonBoy' timestamp='1395428814' post='23074578']
You're right - makes much more sense for them to make a RWD car that definitely will NOT be the fastest in the world (will never beat a McLaren P1) instead of making the fastest FWD car that uses a high-spec engine that will be used elsewhere and is affordable by the masses, employs a current platform (albeit heavily modified) and will beat cars twice or thrice its price around a track.
Yup, they definitely weren't thinking this one through.
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Its true, Pal.... Hard to swallow isnt it?
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Dude the cobalt had a decent time but it this isn't 2008 anymore we are talking about a whole different class now and the cobalt is buried in that group. These cars are talking 8:06 or 7:59 laps and the best the cobalt did was 8:22 big difference.
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And yet the S2000 is still being compared to current cars today.
03-23-2014, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by woodburn' timestamp='1395548101' post='23076420
[quote name='Da New Yawka' timestamp='1395532457' post='23076189']
[quote name='__Ap2__s2k' timestamp='1395457280' post='23075260']
[quote name='Da New Yawka' timestamp='1395452376' post='23075179']
[quote name='JonBoy' timestamp='1395428814' post='23074578']
You're right - makes much more sense for them to make a RWD car that definitely will NOT be the fastest in the world (will never beat a McLaren P1) instead of making the fastest FWD car that uses a high-spec engine that will be used elsewhere and is affordable by the masses, employs a current platform (albeit heavily modified) and will beat cars twice or thrice its price around a track.
Yup, they definitely weren't thinking this one through.
[quote name='__Ap2__s2k' timestamp='1395457280' post='23075260']
[quote name='Da New Yawka' timestamp='1395452376' post='23075179']
[quote name='JonBoy' timestamp='1395428814' post='23074578']
You're right - makes much more sense for them to make a RWD car that definitely will NOT be the fastest in the world (will never beat a McLaren P1) instead of making the fastest FWD car that uses a high-spec engine that will be used elsewhere and is affordable by the masses, employs a current platform (albeit heavily modified) and will beat cars twice or thrice its price around a track.
Yup, they definitely weren't thinking this one through.
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Its true, Pal.... Hard to swallow isnt it?
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Dude the cobalt had a decent time but it this isn't 2008 anymore we are talking about a whole different class now and the cobalt is buried in that group. These cars are talking 8:06 or 7:59 laps and the best the cobalt did was 8:22 big difference.
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And yet the S2000 is still being compared to current cars today.
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Because it's still comparable to cars today...? It's one thing to compare two cars, but to say one that is clearly below the other in all aspects, is above or close, doesn't make sense. The whole cobalt ss thing. They were a flop from the get go.
03-24-2014, 07:45 AM
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And as negative as some are about this car I would still be interested in purchasing one if it was offered here. I hate that it's a Civic but performance is performance. I heavily favor AWD but this car would have me on the lot negotiating. Honda is the only company in the world that I would consider a FWD Performance car from. it's their forte.
