Automobile Mag - First heads up review among Civic, Focus, Elantra
04-29-2011 | 07:35 AM
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Okay, so you're posting this comparo where the Civic finishes second and beats the competitor from your favorite company, yet somehow the Civic is an average car? What does that say of the Elantra? Worse than average?
The Elantra's real world fuel economy is unknown right now, has the same warranty in Canada (where I live) and has no proven reliability yet either.
And people say I'm a fanboy? C'mon!
The Elantra's real world fuel economy is unknown right now, has the same warranty in Canada (where I live) and has no proven reliability yet either.
And people say I'm a fanboy? C'mon!
04-29-2011 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy' timestamp='1304088054' post='20520728
And has the worst handling and ride and is the least sporty. Also, that should read best EPA mileage (they didn't get real world numbers). And it still finished LAST in this comparo, overall, in the eyes of those that drove the cars.
As an ENTHUSIAST, you're claiming the car that's the least enthusiastic is the clear winner.
As an ENTHUSIAST, you're claiming the car that's the least enthusiastic is the clear winner.
The enthusiasts will buy the ST from Ford, and the Si from Honda
The enthusiasts will not buy the Hyundai because there is no plan to make a performance model
The vast majority of people buying these cars are not people who understand oversteer, understeer, torquesteer........
The vast majority of people buying these cars are people who understand how much does it cost, what's the gas mileage, what's the warranty, does it have enough room............
Oh wait, looks like we have a winner, the Hyundai Elantra
04-29-2011 | 08:27 AM
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I think the point here is that the Civic is a very average car in light of the competitive landscape today. Heads-down loyalists will buy it, especially since its so similar to the current one, but those looking at the competition might be swayed away, especially with a car like the Hyundai, which costs a good amount less, gets better mpg, comes with a much better warranty, and now has good reliability and word of mouth behind it as well.
04-29-2011 | 08:51 AM
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04-29-2011 | 09:24 AM
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Finally, something I really like about the Honda and dislike about this car are the headlights that stretch back to over the wheel arches. Those will look horrid once they get hazed and yellowed. I do think the stance of the car is good. It's not hideous either but I think it says Hyundai was trying too hard. Ford, excepting the nose, and Honda minus the taillights did a better job with exterior styling.
BTW, I'm OK with the 5 door being in the review as that would be the version I would get. I have a 5 door SAAB right now. There aren't enough 5 door hatches on the market these days but damned if they aren't useful.
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Ya know that if you clean and wax plastic headlights regularly they don't get hazed and yellowed? It's not really the manufacturer's fault that the people that buy their cars don't take care of them. Personally I prefer glass headlights that don't fade or turn yellow but with proper maintenance these won't either.
(sorry about the quote editting, but I didn't want to quote all those pics and stuff)
BTW, I'm OK with the 5 door being in the review as that would be the version I would get. I have a 5 door SAAB right now. There aren't enough 5 door hatches on the market these days but damned if they aren't useful.
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Ya know that if you clean and wax plastic headlights regularly they don't get hazed and yellowed? It's not really the manufacturer's fault that the people that buy their cars don't take care of them. Personally I prefer glass headlights that don't fade or turn yellow but with proper maintenance these won't either.
(sorry about the quote editting, but I didn't want to quote all those pics and stuff)
04-29-2011 | 10:01 AM
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Civic has been a top ten seller for a number of years. That's a big mountain to climb in terms of established reputation, repeat sales, etc. Maybe we ought to circle back around in 5 years and see where we are.
04-29-2011 | 10:23 AM
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BTW, I'm OK with the 5 door being in the review as that would be the version I would get. I have a 5 door SAAB right now. There aren't enough 5 door hatches on the market these days but damned if they aren't useful.
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