All the Info On the 2023 Acura Integra
09-08-2021, 02:46 PM
#12
Is anyone excited about this car?
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09-09-2021, 08:05 AM
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09-09-2021, 08:22 AM
#16
Just curious, as a long time Integra owner, what would make you excited? I've been thinking about this myself. The original recipe was FWD. The two door variant looked better, but the 4 door wasn't so bad. I think for me it would be high HP AWD manual that's not too heavy. A two door liftback like you suggest. Kinda like a Focus RS but more reliable and two doors. I wouldn't want a two door CTR thingamajig.
09-10-2021, 05:40 AM
#17
In general I detest 4 door cars for one simple reason: they're not built for tall people. In order to be sitting comfortably with the seat properly adjusted, I'm sitting so far back that the B pillar is always immediately to the left of my head. That's never a problem with coupes and their larger doors. Yes there is irony in my above statement, since I currently own 2 4 door vehicles. (This applies to CUVs/SUVs as well - just infuriating.) That being said...
If a new 2 door Integra had great styling, an engine with great power delivery AND character, handling on par with the BRZ, and the flexibility of a liftback design then I would be pretty interested, even in spite of it being FWD. Also goes without saying that it would need a manual transmission and LSD. If those things happen I could see myself replacing the GTI with one. I still find it humorous that the GTI's cargo carrying capacity isn't much greater than my old Integra. The higher roofline is it's huge advantage. But lengthwise, with seats down, the Integra basically matched what you can do with the GTI, front to rear. The context of this for me is hauling around a mtn bike.
When I first heard they were bringing back the Integra, I thought to myself that they're really serious if they're resurrecting the Integra name. Sadly as time has gone by I've come to my senses and realize which company we're dealing with. That being a company that shares almost nothing with the one that brought us the original Integra goodness (as well as other cars, naturally).
If a new 2 door Integra had great styling, an engine with great power delivery AND character, handling on par with the BRZ, and the flexibility of a liftback design then I would be pretty interested, even in spite of it being FWD. Also goes without saying that it would need a manual transmission and LSD. If those things happen I could see myself replacing the GTI with one. I still find it humorous that the GTI's cargo carrying capacity isn't much greater than my old Integra. The higher roofline is it's huge advantage. But lengthwise, with seats down, the Integra basically matched what you can do with the GTI, front to rear. The context of this for me is hauling around a mtn bike.
When I first heard they were bringing back the Integra, I thought to myself that they're really serious if they're resurrecting the Integra name. Sadly as time has gone by I've come to my senses and realize which company we're dealing with. That being a company that shares almost nothing with the one that brought us the original Integra goodness (as well as other cars, naturally).
09-10-2021, 06:02 AM
#18
In general I detest 4 door cars for one simple reason: they're not built for tall people. In order to be sitting comfortably with the seat properly adjusted, I'm sitting so far back that the B pillar is always immediately to the left of my head. That's never a problem with coupes and their larger doors. //////
If a new 2 door Integra had great styling, an engine with great power delivery AND character, handling on par with the BRZ, and the flexibility of a liftback design then I would be pretty interested, even in spite of it being FWD. Also goes without saying that it would need a manual transmission and LSD. If those things happen I could see myself replacing the GTI with one. I still find it humorous that the GTI's cargo carrying capacity isn't much greater than my old Integra. The higher roofline is it's huge advantage. But lengthwise, with seats down, the Integra basically matched what you can do with the GTI, front to rear. The context of this for me is hauling around a mtn bike.
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If a new 2 door Integra had great styling, an engine with great power delivery AND character, handling on par with the BRZ, and the flexibility of a liftback design then I would be pretty interested, even in spite of it being FWD. Also goes without saying that it would need a manual transmission and LSD. If those things happen I could see myself replacing the GTI with one. I still find it humorous that the GTI's cargo carrying capacity isn't much greater than my old Integra. The higher roofline is it's huge advantage. But lengthwise, with seats down, the Integra basically matched what you can do with the GTI, front to rear. The context of this for me is hauling around a mtn bike.
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It would take an Integra that checks a lot of boxes to get her into one instead of the Toyobaru. 4-door Civic with a different grille won't cut it. That said, on any of these, the bikes ride outside; my road bikes are tall and I have trouble getting them inside my friends Sienna minivan, which he bought specifically to transport bikes. Unlikely to fit inside any car in this size class without popping both wheels.
09-10-2021, 10:37 AM
#19
You know, Honda did make an SI coupe that no one here thought twice about. I guess it was just missing the hatch, but the car was actually fun to drive and imo a great bargain at 24k (easily discounted to 20ish), and they come fully loaded. So in that vein, if they put in the Accord motor, and made it a liftback, and kept the price under 30 which seriously should NOT be hard to do considering it's just an Si with an Accord engine swap (Sis came with better brakes and LSD, along with all the EX options), then maybe just maybe.
Why would someone buy one over an IS, A4, 3 series, C Class? Signicantly cheaper, Honda reliability and running costs. Why would someone buy one over a GTI? Perceived running costs, Acura badge and interior. Why would someone buy it over a Miata/86? Utility, and power upgradeability. Why would someone buy it over a pony car? Cheaper than the V8 models, much more so actually, has potential to beat out the V6s, Acura build quality.
So... take the basic premise of the Civic SI, but give it the Accord 2.0T, keep it FWD, offer it in a coupe and sedan liftback, and keep the price under 30k. End result is a 2900lb, well equipped, manual, FWD with LSD, 250hp turbo engine (potential) with an Acura level interior, more adult styling, for under 30k. Hmm, yeah I'd say that would be something worth looking at. Honda has 5k to upgrade the engine from the 1.8 to the 2.0, and give it an acura interior. That should be more than doable. And then down the road make the Type R version. Perhaps make the Integra coupe only since you got the civic, figure if you need the utility, go with the more practical brand H, and since coupes are more of a luxury anyway, keep that with the A. The Civic and Integra Type Rs of the past were essentially Pornhub stepsiblings anyway.
My brother for a sec was considering buying the Civic SI coupe to upgrade from his 07, so I got to drive it a bit and the car is actually quite fun, makes absolute sense as a double duty DD/weekend car, and in alot of ways I preferred it to the GTI. So as I think about it, an Integra as I have described actually makes a ton of sense.
Why would someone buy one over an IS, A4, 3 series, C Class? Signicantly cheaper, Honda reliability and running costs. Why would someone buy one over a GTI? Perceived running costs, Acura badge and interior. Why would someone buy it over a Miata/86? Utility, and power upgradeability. Why would someone buy it over a pony car? Cheaper than the V8 models, much more so actually, has potential to beat out the V6s, Acura build quality.
So... take the basic premise of the Civic SI, but give it the Accord 2.0T, keep it FWD, offer it in a coupe and sedan liftback, and keep the price under 30k. End result is a 2900lb, well equipped, manual, FWD with LSD, 250hp turbo engine (potential) with an Acura level interior, more adult styling, for under 30k. Hmm, yeah I'd say that would be something worth looking at. Honda has 5k to upgrade the engine from the 1.8 to the 2.0, and give it an acura interior. That should be more than doable. And then down the road make the Type R version. Perhaps make the Integra coupe only since you got the civic, figure if you need the utility, go with the more practical brand H, and since coupes are more of a luxury anyway, keep that with the A. The Civic and Integra Type Rs of the past were essentially Pornhub stepsiblings anyway.
My brother for a sec was considering buying the Civic SI coupe to upgrade from his 07, so I got to drive it a bit and the car is actually quite fun, makes absolute sense as a double duty DD/weekend car, and in alot of ways I preferred it to the GTI. So as I think about it, an Integra as I have described actually makes a ton of sense.
09-10-2021, 11:18 AM
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