Alfa 4C for USA - 300hp, 2000lbs- Price?
03-06-2013, 08:15 AM
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I'm usually very open minded when it comes to unique automotive designs, but I have to say those might be the ugliest headlights i've ever seen.
Also, still no final word on US pricing?
Also, still no final word on US pricing?
03-06-2013, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol' timestamp='1359739184' post='22308053
Alfa and basically all Italian cars were known for rust, poor interior finishes and strict service schedules.
A major sector of the market remembers days of the Milano/Spyder where parts distribution and dealer service really varied. Others are just not familiar with Alfa since their last car sold here was 1995. Chrysler selling Alfa did not help, but take for instance the GTV6.
In 1985 the GTV6 sold for like 17K while a Porsche 944 sold for 24K; that's a huge difference. As romantic and exotic as Alfa is in the minds of auto enthusiasts, they were not expensive cars.
A major sector of the market remembers days of the Milano/Spyder where parts distribution and dealer service really varied. Others are just not familiar with Alfa since their last car sold here was 1995. Chrysler selling Alfa did not help, but take for instance the GTV6.
In 1985 the GTV6 sold for like 17K while a Porsche 944 sold for 24K; that's a huge difference. As romantic and exotic as Alfa is in the minds of auto enthusiasts, they were not expensive cars.
03-06-2013, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol' timestamp='1359739184' post='22308053
Alfa and basically all Italian cars were known for rust, poor interior finishes and strict service schedules.
A major sector of the market remembers days of the Milano/Spyder where parts distribution and dealer service really varied. Others are just not familiar with Alfa since their last car sold here was 1995. Chrysler selling Alfa did not help, but take for instance the GTV6.
In 1985 the GTV6 sold for like 17K while a Porsche 944 sold for 24K; that's a huge difference. As romantic and exotic as Alfa is in the minds of auto enthusiasts, they were not expensive cars.
A major sector of the market remembers days of the Milano/Spyder where parts distribution and dealer service really varied. Others are just not familiar with Alfa since their last car sold here was 1995. Chrysler selling Alfa did not help, but take for instance the GTV6.
In 1985 the GTV6 sold for like 17K while a Porsche 944 sold for 24K; that's a huge difference. As romantic and exotic as Alfa is in the minds of auto enthusiasts, they were not expensive cars.
I'm looking at the 4C as their significantly higher priced "halo car" to showcase what technology they are capable of. I don't think it's intended to sell in high volume. And they aren't going after the Corvette market. This will be an exclusive niche car in the same vein as the Exige albeit with something better than "kit car" quality fit and finish.
03-06-2013, 10:13 AM
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03-06-2013, 10:42 AM
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Only thing valuable I got from this reveal is it makes net downforce. That's pretty impressive for a car that will cost much less than 100k and probably has crazy packaging underneath the sheetmetal.
03-06-2013, 12:03 PM
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Automotive News on Alfa 4C
The 4C will make extensive use of super-light carbon fiber components until now only found in Formula 1 racing cars and exotic cars like the new Ferrari F150, another Tuesday debut at the show.
The 4C's light body means that the smallish four-cylinder engine can deliver speeds normally associated with high-performance cars.
The 4C will make extensive use of super-light carbon fiber components until now only found in Formula 1 racing cars and exotic cars like the new Ferrari F150, another Tuesday debut at the show.
The 4C's light body means that the smallish four-cylinder engine can deliver speeds normally associated with high-performance cars.
03-06-2013, 04:56 PM
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Not just extensive use of carbon fiber in the body. This thing has a carbon tub! that to me make a big chunk of that price tag well worth it. Here's a 1 minute video that shows the tub.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBEUq...E6aH3fAU0d2Cyg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBEUq...E6aH3fAU0d2Cyg
Sex appeal and driving passion are their first priorities. Alfa will do well on their return to the USA. Buyers are starving stylish cars that full of personality, but they have to be reliable. If Alfa can make the reliability mark, they'll be all set.
Similarly, Renault should re-enter the USA; they're cars are better looking than what Nissan sells here. Megane line up is great, Clio V6; way cooler than an STi or Evo.
03-07-2013, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k' timestamp='1362586243' post='22384236
[quote name='mosesbotbol' timestamp='1359739184' post='22308053']
Alfa and basically all Italian cars were known for rust, poor interior finishes and strict service schedules.
A major sector of the market remembers days of the Milano/Spyder where parts distribution and dealer service really varied. Others are just not familiar with Alfa since their last car sold here was 1995. Chrysler selling Alfa did not help, but take for instance the GTV6.
In 1985 the GTV6 sold for like 17K while a Porsche 944 sold for 24K; that's a huge difference. As romantic and exotic as Alfa is in the minds of auto enthusiasts, they were not expensive cars.
Alfa and basically all Italian cars were known for rust, poor interior finishes and strict service schedules.
A major sector of the market remembers days of the Milano/Spyder where parts distribution and dealer service really varied. Others are just not familiar with Alfa since their last car sold here was 1995. Chrysler selling Alfa did not help, but take for instance the GTV6.
In 1985 the GTV6 sold for like 17K while a Porsche 944 sold for 24K; that's a huge difference. As romantic and exotic as Alfa is in the minds of auto enthusiasts, they were not expensive cars.
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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k' timestamp='1362586243' post='22384236
[quote name='mosesbotbol' timestamp='1359739184' post='22308053']
Alfa and basically all Italian cars were known for rust, poor interior finishes and strict service schedules.
A major sector of the market remembers days of the Milano/Spyder where parts distribution and dealer service really varied. Others are just not familiar with Alfa since their last car sold here was 1995. Chrysler selling Alfa did not help, but take for instance the GTV6.
In 1985 the GTV6 sold for like 17K while a Porsche 944 sold for 24K; that's a huge difference. As romantic and exotic as Alfa is in the minds of auto enthusiasts, they were not expensive cars.
Alfa and basically all Italian cars were known for rust, poor interior finishes and strict service schedules.
A major sector of the market remembers days of the Milano/Spyder where parts distribution and dealer service really varied. Others are just not familiar with Alfa since their last car sold here was 1995. Chrysler selling Alfa did not help, but take for instance the GTV6.
In 1985 the GTV6 sold for like 17K while a Porsche 944 sold for 24K; that's a huge difference. As romantic and exotic as Alfa is in the minds of auto enthusiasts, they were not expensive cars.
I'm looking at the 4C as their significantly higher priced "halo car" to showcase what technology they are capable of. I don't think it's intended to sell in high volume. And they aren't going after the Corvette market. This will be an exclusive niche car in the same vein as the Exige albeit with something better than "kit car" quality fit and finish.
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I'm well aware of Alfa's offerings in other markets and where they stand. But the average ignorant American consumer doesn't know that, and this will be their perception.
On a side, if Alfas are so "sporty" these days then why are all their affordable offerings FWD? That's been bothering me for a while.
03-09-2013, 12:56 PM
#69
I read in a C&D magazine yesterday that the price tag is gonna be ~$85k for the US market...
Sucks, as I was really looking forward to this car, I'm out of college and getting a career underway and was hoping that this would be my first "big boy car purchase" ...not at that price tag.
Sucks, as I was really looking forward to this car, I'm out of college and getting a career underway and was hoping that this would be my first "big boy car purchase" ...not at that price tag.
03-10-2013, 06:22 AM
#70
I am waiting 3-4 years for my next car purchase. I hope the 4C will be an option by then. Figure used, they'll be selling around 50K by then? Then again, so will the F-Type. Tough choice. Carbon Fiber body is quite appealing, no more door dings!