Alfa 4C for USA - 300hp, 2000lbs- Price?
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According to Alfa's site it will be sub 1870lb with a weightower of less than 8.8lb/hp. That puts it at >215hp.
That aint much different from the Elise SC or and Exige. What does a used Elise SC go for these days, $35k?
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Elise SC maybe low 40K. 05/06 Elise with an aftermarket blower about 35K. Most S/C Loti start around 215 WHP though which is like 240-250 hp and 1950 lbs. I'll admit the Elise with the NA motor isn't that fun but add 60 hp and it's decent.
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wow.... i think I will pass at damn near any price...... i cannot imagine any car (not matter how light) being fun with 215hp and probably nearly no torque...
Originally Posted by tarheel91' timestamp='1361886486' post='22364353
According to Alfa's site it will be sub 1870lb with a weightower of less than 8.8lb/hp. That puts it at >215hp.
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4C Forum is saying around 70K
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Originally Posted by Scot' timestamp='1361888609' post='22364469
wow.... i think I will pass at damn near any price...... i cannot imagine any car (not matter how light) being fun with 215hp and probably nearly no torque...
[quote name='tarheel91' timestamp='1361886486' post='22364353']
According to Alfa's site it will be sub 1870lb with a weightower of less than 8.8lb/hp. That puts it at >215hp.
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According to Alfa's site it will be sub 1870lb with a weightower of less than 8.8lb/hp. That puts it at >215hp.
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Yeah, that was a troll post if there ever was one.
I bet all of those Ariel Atoms are really boring to drive. Clearly a Ford Mustang V6 is so much better because it has more power.
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ok,local Alfa says euro price should be 60K, but this site says 40k
http://www.alfaromeo4c.org/alfa-romeo-4c-price.php
If the 40k is w/o VAT then its ca 50k
http://www.alfaromeo4c.org/alfa-romeo-4c-price.php
If the 40k is w/o VAT then its ca 50k
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Automotive News on Alfa 4C
GENEVA -- Alfa Romeo CEO Harald Wester said the 4C small sports coupe is the ideal model for the brand's relaunch in North America later this year.
The 4C will deliver 240 hp from its 1.75-liter, turbocharged, direct-injection gasoline engine and top out at 155 mph after speeding from zero to 60 mph in about 4.5 seconds.
"These numbers underline the supercar status of the 4C," Wester said at a mobbed Alfa Romeo stand at the Geneva auto show today.
Wester was speaking at the introduction of the rear-drive, two-seat 4C, designed to give the struggling marque an image boost and also lead Alfa's return to the U.S. market it quit in 1995.
Alfa enthusiasts have been waiting for the brand to launch an affordable rear-drive model since the Duetto Spider that was discontinued in 1994.
Alfa today said the price of 60,000 euros ($78,200) for the 4C in Europe is for a special "launch edition." Alfa said the car will be sold in dealerships at a lower price, without providing details.
The 4C goes on sale in Europe in September. The automaker did not reveal the car's starting price for the United States, where it will debut in Fiat-Alfa dealerships after November's Los Angeles auto show, Wester said.
Alfa initially planned to price the 4C below 50,000 euros. Some commentators have speculated that the car could be priced at $60,000-$80,000 in the United States, where premium German two-door models are all cheaper. The Porsche Cayman, Audi A5, BMW 329i and Mercedes-Benz C350 all start in the $39,000-$44,000 range.
The 4C retains the styling of the concept vehicle that won acclaim at the Geneva show two years ago. The car is rakish, very compact with extremely low ground clearance and a weight of just under 2,000 pounds. The 4C will come with a dual-clutch, six-speed automatic transmission.
The 4C is the first model to be launched under Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne's plan to turn around the unprofitable Alfa brand. Marchionne said in October he aims to triple Alfa sales to 300,000 units annually by 2016, helped by new product introductions and by U.S sales.
Alfa Romeo will produce 3,500 of the limited-edition cars, Wester said, of which 370 have already been ordered. A total of 1,500 of the cars will be earmarked for Europe, 1,200 for North America and 800 for the rest of the world.
The 4C will make extensive use of super-light carbon fiber components until now only found in Formula 1 racing cars and exotic cars like the new Ferrari F150, another Tuesday debut at the show.
The 4C's light body means that the smallish four-cylinder engine can deliver speeds normally associated with high-performance cars.
Alfa believes the publicity surrounding the 4C's launch in the United States should serve to generate interest in subsequent models, such as the Giulia sedan due out in 2014
GENEVA -- Alfa Romeo CEO Harald Wester said the 4C small sports coupe is the ideal model for the brand's relaunch in North America later this year.
The 4C will deliver 240 hp from its 1.75-liter, turbocharged, direct-injection gasoline engine and top out at 155 mph after speeding from zero to 60 mph in about 4.5 seconds.
"These numbers underline the supercar status of the 4C," Wester said at a mobbed Alfa Romeo stand at the Geneva auto show today.
Wester was speaking at the introduction of the rear-drive, two-seat 4C, designed to give the struggling marque an image boost and also lead Alfa's return to the U.S. market it quit in 1995.
Alfa enthusiasts have been waiting for the brand to launch an affordable rear-drive model since the Duetto Spider that was discontinued in 1994.
Alfa today said the price of 60,000 euros ($78,200) for the 4C in Europe is for a special "launch edition." Alfa said the car will be sold in dealerships at a lower price, without providing details.
The 4C goes on sale in Europe in September. The automaker did not reveal the car's starting price for the United States, where it will debut in Fiat-Alfa dealerships after November's Los Angeles auto show, Wester said.
Alfa initially planned to price the 4C below 50,000 euros. Some commentators have speculated that the car could be priced at $60,000-$80,000 in the United States, where premium German two-door models are all cheaper. The Porsche Cayman, Audi A5, BMW 329i and Mercedes-Benz C350 all start in the $39,000-$44,000 range.
The 4C retains the styling of the concept vehicle that won acclaim at the Geneva show two years ago. The car is rakish, very compact with extremely low ground clearance and a weight of just under 2,000 pounds. The 4C will come with a dual-clutch, six-speed automatic transmission.
The 4C is the first model to be launched under Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne's plan to turn around the unprofitable Alfa brand. Marchionne said in October he aims to triple Alfa sales to 300,000 units annually by 2016, helped by new product introductions and by U.S sales.
Alfa Romeo will produce 3,500 of the limited-edition cars, Wester said, of which 370 have already been ordered. A total of 1,500 of the cars will be earmarked for Europe, 1,200 for North America and 800 for the rest of the world.
The 4C will make extensive use of super-light carbon fiber components until now only found in Formula 1 racing cars and exotic cars like the new Ferrari F150, another Tuesday debut at the show.
The 4C's light body means that the smallish four-cylinder engine can deliver speeds normally associated with high-performance cars.
Alfa believes the publicity surrounding the 4C's launch in the United States should serve to generate interest in subsequent models, such as the Giulia sedan due out in 2014
#59
Alfa and basically all Italian cars were known for rust, poor interior finishes and strict service schedules.
A major sector of the market remembers days of the Milano/Spyder where parts distribution and dealer service really varied. Others are just not familiar with Alfa since their last car sold here was 1995. Chrysler selling Alfa did not help, but take for instance the GTV6.
In 1985 the GTV6 sold for like 17K while a Porsche 944 sold for 24K; that's a huge difference. As romantic and exotic as Alfa is in the minds of auto enthusiasts, they were not expensive cars.
A major sector of the market remembers days of the Milano/Spyder where parts distribution and dealer service really varied. Others are just not familiar with Alfa since their last car sold here was 1995. Chrysler selling Alfa did not help, but take for instance the GTV6.
In 1985 the GTV6 sold for like 17K while a Porsche 944 sold for 24K; that's a huge difference. As romantic and exotic as Alfa is in the minds of auto enthusiasts, they were not expensive cars.