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Old 04-11-2005 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Intrepid175,Apr 11 2005, 11:05 AM
No offense but I think you're a little confused on how Honda Hybrids work.
None taken but I don't think you undstood my post. The motor on the accord is capable of putting out 100 ft-lbs of torque at low rpms, which is a gob more than the 40 ft-lbs at 1500 rpms that the stock v6 would putting out. As the motor comes on in high-demend low-rpm situations I would assume that when you mash the throttle from a standstill the electric motor kicks on.

BTW the original post stated that the electric motor starts the car and then the gasoline engine takes over (or at least that is how I read it).

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Old 04-11-2005 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Intrepid175,Apr 11 2005, 09:11 PM
Everything I've read on Honda's hybrid systems say (unless I missed something) that the gasoline engine is the primary source of power. The electric part adds it's 2 cents worth whenever the driver requests the added power. In this case, I'm thinking, "punching it to pass on the freeway," that sort of thing. It's also likely that the electrics help when the car first starts off. Electric motors make their best torque right at stall speed so once the engine lights off, the electric motor continues to assist with getting the car rolling. Overcoming inertia from a dead stop is one of the scenarios that eat up a lot of fuel.

The hybrid Accord V6 "does" have the cylinder deactivation feature. Once you're up to speed and running at relatively light throttle settings, the rear 3 cylinders (I think it's the back set?) shut down. That's why the car has such high freeway EPA numbers. This system also includes "active" motor mounts to quiet the added vibrations that come from running a V6 on only three cylinders. All of this is computer controlled. Needless to say, there's a LOT more to this system than "just" bolting an electric motor to the back of a standard Accord V6.

Kuddo's to Honda and Toyota for developing the technology!

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Steve R.
thanks for the clarificiation. i always wondered about the operation of these motors.
Old 04-11-2005 | 07:31 PM
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[QUOTE=Gabe,Apr 11 2005, 07:44 PM] None taken but I don't think you undstood my post.
Old 04-12-2005 | 06:42 AM
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I wonder what the real MPG figure is. I own a 2005 V6 Accord and get 23.2 MPG. I used to own an HX Civic and got 35 MPG real world which I think is better than real world civic hybrid numbers. May not be worth the extra cash. I wonder if the 4 cylinder Accord would get the same MPG as the V6 hybrid.
Old 04-12-2005 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnE,Apr 12 2005, 08:42 AM
I wonder what the real MPG figure is?
Good question! It all depends on how the car is driven. Most folks don't seem to do as well as EPA estimates.

I figure that I'm relatively conservative because of the last 5 cars I've owned, most have done at or slightly better than the EPA sticker suggested one way or the other. Of course, there were always exceptions to that, depending on the specific situation.

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Old 04-12-2005 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kid_Niki,Apr 10 2005, 02:30 AM
So gas prices keep rising, and they probably aren't gonna drop anytime soon.

Element is the the daily. Well, luckily my wife and I work at the same place so we don't have to drive two cars, but we drive about 50 miles a day.


As soon as we have the money together I think we are gonne get the non navi one. It should save us a few hundred bucks a year in gas a year.
your logic makes no sense.


Old 04-12-2005 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Intrepid175,Apr 11 2005, 10:31 PM
I may have taken you a bit too literally.
Not a problem, we all know how difficult it can be to communicate on the web.

Anyhow I fully agree that this is a very cool (and useful) technology. Had I not purchased an accord before the hybrids came out I most definitely would have opted for one.

Gabe
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