The 2nd OFFICIAL GT-R Thread
10-26-2007, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidM,Oct 25 2007, 01:34 AM
If this posts similar hp / tq number to a 997 Turbo, I don't see why the GT-R numbers couldn't be as good or better than the GT3's.
997GT3 has posted quicker time there than 997TT ... I think it was about 5sec quicker.
Also (according to the specs) the new GTR will have similar power to 911TT, less torque (~100Nm less), and more weight (~100kg more).
I wonder if the AWD will help it shave time off 'ring times.
I see no reason why it would. Afterall, 4WD is not always of benefit in terms of laptimes. It help on slippery surfaces, and also with power down traction, but at the same time the cornering speeds can be lower.
Also Nurburgring is a fast track so power down is rarely an issue there.
RS4 posted some very impressive times for it's hp/weight ratio
I don't know ... 8:09 is where I'd expect it. ie. somewhere between a new 911 and e46 M3, and in line with M5 / M6.
997GT3 has posted quicker time there than 997TT ... I think it was about 5sec quicker.
Also (according to the specs) the new GTR will have similar power to 911TT, less torque (~100Nm less), and more weight (~100kg more).
I wonder if the AWD will help it shave time off 'ring times.
I see no reason why it would. Afterall, 4WD is not always of benefit in terms of laptimes. It help on slippery surfaces, and also with power down traction, but at the same time the cornering speeds can be lower.
Also Nurburgring is a fast track so power down is rarely an issue there.
RS4 posted some very impressive times for it's hp/weight ratio
I don't know ... 8:09 is where I'd expect it. ie. somewhere between a new 911 and e46 M3, and in line with M5 / M6.
I'm still waiting for the official test though but based on the videos of them tracking it against the Porsche this thing is impressive.
10-26-2007, 04:47 AM
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I think it's AWD does help it.
How? It does not give the car anymore grip ... only gives it more traction. So it can only help if the car is running out of traction.
How? It does not give the car anymore grip ... only gives it more traction. So it can only help if the car is running out of traction.
10-26-2007, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidM,Oct 26 2007, 07:47 AM
I think it's AWD does help it.
How? It does not give the car anymore grip ... only gives it more traction. So it can only help if the car is running out of traction.
How? It does not give the car anymore grip ... only gives it more traction. So it can only help if the car is running out of traction.
You answered your own question.
10-26-2007, 05:18 AM
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You answered your own question.
Not exactly. Benefit of 'extra' traction is of use of only when you're running out of traction. ie. on power down, in tight corners. At speeds of 60mph+ (and in 3rd gear+) cars don't usually suffer from traction issues (even without 4WD).
Not exactly. Benefit of 'extra' traction is of use of only when you're running out of traction. ie. on power down, in tight corners. At speeds of 60mph+ (and in 3rd gear+) cars don't usually suffer from traction issues (even without 4WD).