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Old 07-18-2020, 04:45 AM
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Judging by the relatively new Ford F150 at my work with an eco boost engine, I very much doubt that.
Nothing wrong with being in the minority.
Old 07-19-2020, 08:31 AM
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I saw an ad for jeep last night- they are currently offering 0% for 72 months with 90d no payments. Perhaps an attempt to unload old stock before the Bronco is available?
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Originally Posted by rwheelz
I saw an ad for jeep last night- they are currently offering 0% for 72 months with 90d no payments. Perhaps an attempt to unload old stock before the Bronco is available?
nope, COVID promo. Almost all are doing this.

bronco isn’t going to change jeep sales much. Mark my words. FJ did nothing to them too.
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Originally Posted by rob-2
nope, COVID promo. Almost all are doing this.

bronco isn’t going to change jeep sales much. Mark my words. FJ did nothing to them too.
Words have been marked. The difference is the Bronco is aimed squarely at the Wrangler. The FJ did not have removable doors or top. Nor did the Xterra. That's a big deal. The Bronco has heritage. This is going to put a big hurtin' on Wrangler sales. Head over to the Wrangler forums. Even those owners are chomping at the Bronco bit. It's already impacted Wrangler sales. I know lots of people in the market who now have put deposits on the Bronco and listing their Wranglers.
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Originally Posted by ssbfgc
Words have been marked. The difference is the Bronco is aimed squarely at the Wrangler. The FJ did not have removable doors or top. Nor did the Xterra. That's a big deal. The Bronco has heritage. This is going to put a big hurtin' on Wrangler sales. Head over to the Wrangler forums. Even those owners are chomping at the Bronco bit. It's already impacted Wrangler sales. I know lots of people in the market who now have put deposits on the Bronco and listing their Wranglers.
let’s see how it plays out. I like the Branco but never wanted to own a Jeep for what that’s worth.

the forums haven’t been historically good sources of facts for sales.

FCA hasn’t responded yet to it.
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Originally Posted by ssbfgc
Words have been marked. The difference is the Bronco is aimed squarely at the Wrangler. The FJ did not have removable doors or top. Nor did the Xterra. That's a big deal. The Bronco has heritage. This is going to put a big hurtin' on Wrangler sales. Head over to the Wrangler forums. Even those owners are chomping at the Bronco bit. It's already impacted Wrangler sales. I know lots of people in the market who now have put deposits on the Bronco and listing their Wranglers.
Please define 'lots of people'.
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Yeah I was amazed that even my jeep buddies are hot and bothered by the bronco. Their rigs are older and worn, but the new jeeps dont inspire confidence.
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The Bronco and Wrangler are direct competitors. Anyone that wanted what the Wrangler offered had one choice, Wrangler. Now, the new kid is back on the block and it's looking good. There will be a significant number of conquest sales, enough to make FCA/Stellantis ( rolleyes) very concerned. The Wrangler is a huge cash cow for Stellanti.....I just can't do it....FCA, so losing tens of thousands of units conservatively to Bronco will hurt. Putting the 392 in will definitely help for people that like power since the top offering initially on the Bronco is a perfectly good 2.7L V6 turbo, but it's definitely not a barn stormer.

Anyway, competition will be very good for the category. When I did my Raptor Assault class in Utah a month or so back, I was lucky enough to get offered a Wrangler two door instead of my Corolla I had rented from Enterprise at the SLC airport. I told the lady whatever when she offered the Wrangler. I walk out there and it's a brand new Rubicon in red with the Turbo 4 cylinder. It was surprisingly fun and nice to drive. I even took it on some trails I drove the Raptor on after our class was over and, of course, it was way more capable than me. Such a blast.
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Originally Posted by zdave87
Please define 'lots of people'.
I believe there is a pole on bronco6g where it's like 30% or so are current Wrangler owners. I would guess Wrangler sales (not including Covid) drop 20-30% over the next 15-20 months. I would define that as a lot for a vehicle that's dominated the segment for so long.
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG
The Bronco and Wrangler are direct competitors. Anyone that wanted what the Wrangler offered had one choice, Wrangler. Now, the new kid is back on the block and it's looking good. There will be a significant number of conquest sales, enough to make FCA/Stellantis ( rolleyes) very concerned. The Wrangler is a huge cash cow for Stellanti.....I just can't do it....FCA, so losing tens of thousands of units conservatively to Bronco will hurt. Putting the 392 in will definitely help for people that like power since the top offering initially on the Bronco is a perfectly good 2.7L V6 turbo, but it's definitely not a barn stormer.

Anyway, competition will be very good for the category. When I did my Raptor Assault class in Utah a month or so back, I was lucky enough to get offered a Wrangler two door instead of my Corolla I had rented from Enterprise at the SLC airport. I told the lady whatever when she offered the Wrangler. I walk out there and it's a brand new Rubicon in red with the Turbo 4 cylinder. It was surprisingly fun and nice to drive. I even took it on some trails I drove the Raptor on after our class was over and, of course, it was way more capable than me. Such a blast.
Yes, my point exactly. If you want an adventurous vehicle (or any vehicle) with removable doors and top, you literally had one choice. People seem so dismissive of this critical point. There have been other capable off-road vehicles like the FJ, Xterra, 4runner, etc, but doors and top stay on. Is Jeep worried? I'd say so, considering on the Bronco release day they posted a 392 Wrangler (CONCEPT). Ford listened to the complaints of Jeep owners. The Wrangler hasn't really changed much since the inception of the JK in 2007. I'm thinking there will be some significant improvements in the next couple of years.

Yep, the 2 door is really fun. The 4 banger is inadequate (to me) for the 4 door though.


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