2016 Mazda MX-5 (ND) to be unveiled Sep 3. 2014 at Laguna Seca
09-04-2014, 06:04 AM
#121
Beautifully designed and you have to love a car that will weigh (at most) less than 2400 lbs. Now, we just need to know the engine specs.
I fully expect them to DROP power levels to maintain the previous power-to-weight ratio.
Can you imagine one of these with a V8 conversion?!?!
I fully expect them to DROP power levels to maintain the previous power-to-weight ratio.
Can you imagine one of these with a V8 conversion?!?!
09-04-2014, 06:11 AM
#122
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I don't get why they didn't keep up with the mazdaspeed miata version. Was it a flop when it came out? I know they hold their value pretty well now and really sought after models. Only did the 2 years and I think second year a bunch of them burned up in a factory or something.
09-04-2014, 08:18 AM
#123
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Originally Posted by EastS2k' timestamp='1404409966' post='23229068
250hp/ 270tq from a turbo skyactive 2.3, curb weight under 2600lbs, sold.
Lets look at it by the year:
1990: 2200 lbs / 116hp = 19
1994: 2300 lbs / 128hp = 18
1999: 2300 lbs / 140hp = 16.5
2001: 2400 lbs / 155hp = 15.5
2006: 2500 lbs / 167hp = 15
My prediction is that it become a solid 13.5 lbs per horsepower just because that would put it in line with previous generational changes.
2500 lbs, 185 hp is my guess. I will throw in much smaller displacement then 2.3 as well. I think it will be a turbo 1.5 unit.
Honestly, this is probably aimed squarely at the FR-S so I am doubtful we will see base Cayman beating specs, at least right off the bast.
As someone mentioned, 200hp would put it on par with and S2000 and make it a very fun car.
09-04-2014, 08:35 AM
#124
Posted this in the other thread.
http://www.carthrottle.com/the-new-m...activ-engines/
1.5 and 2.0 pushing at least 130 and 158hp, respectively.
"Bearing in mind the new car’s 100kg weight saving compared with the Mk3, it’s safe to assume that the 1.5 could produce around 130bhp, a slight increase over the Mk3’s 126bhp figure.
The new 2.0-litre Skyactiv car will also be more powerful and faster than the previous-generation 2.0, so expect a power figure above 158bhp."
http://www.carthrottle.com/the-new-m...activ-engines/
1.5 and 2.0 pushing at least 130 and 158hp, respectively.
"Bearing in mind the new car’s 100kg weight saving compared with the Mk3, it’s safe to assume that the 1.5 could produce around 130bhp, a slight increase over the Mk3’s 126bhp figure.
The new 2.0-litre Skyactiv car will also be more powerful and faster than the previous-generation 2.0, so expect a power figure above 158bhp."
09-04-2014, 08:44 AM
#125
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Posted this in the other thread.
http://www.carthrottle.com/the-new-m...activ-engines/
1.5 and 2.0 pushing at least 130 and 158hp, respectively.
"Bearing in mind the new car’s 100kg weight saving compared with the Mk3, it’s safe to assume that the 1.5 could produce around 130bhp, a slight increase over the Mk3’s 126bhp figure.
The new 2.0-litre Skyactiv car will also be more powerful and faster than the previous-generation 2.0, so expect a power figure above 158bhp."
http://www.carthrottle.com/the-new-m...activ-engines/
1.5 and 2.0 pushing at least 130 and 158hp, respectively.
"Bearing in mind the new car’s 100kg weight saving compared with the Mk3, it’s safe to assume that the 1.5 could produce around 130bhp, a slight increase over the Mk3’s 126bhp figure.
The new 2.0-litre Skyactiv car will also be more powerful and faster than the previous-generation 2.0, so expect a power figure above 158bhp."
09-04-2014, 08:53 AM
#126
Originally Posted by jimboslice' timestamp='1409848549' post='23315740
Posted this in the other thread.
http://www.carthrottle.com/the-new-m...activ-engines/
1.5 and 2.0 pushing at least 130 and 158hp, respectively.
"Bearing in mind the new car’s 100kg weight saving compared with the Mk3, it’s safe to assume that the 1.5 could produce around 130bhp, a slight increase over the Mk3’s 126bhp figure.
The new 2.0-litre Skyactiv car will also be more powerful and faster than the previous-generation 2.0, so expect a power figure above 158bhp."
http://www.carthrottle.com/the-new-m...activ-engines/
1.5 and 2.0 pushing at least 130 and 158hp, respectively.
"Bearing in mind the new car’s 100kg weight saving compared with the Mk3, it’s safe to assume that the 1.5 could produce around 130bhp, a slight increase over the Mk3’s 126bhp figure.
The new 2.0-litre Skyactiv car will also be more powerful and faster than the previous-generation 2.0, so expect a power figure above 158bhp."
That original teaser video sounded like it'd be boosted. Maybe the "bosses" just leaked the engine SIZE, and purposefully left out any details, like forced induction
I can only hope that's the case lol.
09-04-2014, 09:22 AM
#127
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I'm still holding out hope it'll come with some more punch, but the engine sizes seem to make sense given the model's history.
That original teaser video sounded like it'd be boosted. Maybe the "bosses" just leaked the engine SIZE, and purposefully left out any details, like forced induction
I can only hope that's the case lol.
That original teaser video sounded like it'd be boosted. Maybe the "bosses" just leaked the engine SIZE, and purposefully left out any details, like forced induction
I can only hope that's the case lol.
09-04-2014, 09:26 AM
#128
I don't know why a brand-new 2.0L engine would make less power than an old 2.0L engine (or, more to the point, significantly less power). It may make more torque at a lower rpm and thus they trade off the top-end power for low- and mid-range grunt...but that usually results in less than 5 hp difference on a car of this displacement. DI alone is typically worth 5% (minimum) in both power and efficiency for a given displacement.
09-04-2014, 09:39 AM
#129
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I don't know why a brand-new 2.0L engine would make less power than an old 2.0L engine (or, more to the point, significantly less power). It may make more torque at a lower rpm and thus they trade off the top-end power for low- and mid-range grunt...but that usually results in less than 5 hp difference on a car of this displacement. DI alone is typically worth 5% (minimum) in both power and efficiency for a given displacement.
09-04-2014, 09:53 AM
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I have a 2012 Mazda3 with the 2.0 sky. It's nice and peppy, even though the car weighs 2,950lbs and I only put 87 octane in it. great all around economy car for someone that likes a sporty, responsive drive.
it will feel great in the MX-5 as long as they keep the low end torque which should be easy to do if they give it a power bump of 10%(my estimate)
I want to see the exhaust header design.
it will feel great in the MX-5 as long as they keep the low end torque which should be easy to do if they give it a power bump of 10%(my estimate)
I want to see the exhaust header design.