2015 turbo Civic!
09-11-2013, 05:08 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by Elistan' timestamp='1378845023' post='22771512
I'm only interested in this car in so far as it can make me depressed about how Honda failed to continue developing the S2000. 
(Although it's encouraging that they've been promoting the new NSX rather heavily. Unfortunately, the rumored price puts it out of my range. Here's to hoping that they're developing an S2000 replacement at the same time...)
09-11-2013, 05:51 AM
#12
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It's cool that Honda is sticking a turbo in a Civic, but it is taking the cheap route to sportiness and many would prefer a real sports car from the company.
09-11-2013, 07:18 AM
#13
Originally Posted by Sebring AP1' timestamp='1378864102' post='22771957
From a performance standpoint, it is if you want a fast RWD car. It bests its older brother on track, too.
Now however, no. The Mugen RR civic takes that throne if stock, but mod for mod the S2000 is still Honda's best performing car. I don't want to point to the highest level of T/A to show how frequently the S2000 bests the more expensive NSX.
Lets hope if this car is a big success some of the development trickles down to the RWD successor of our little roadster
I love S2000's, but there's no denying that a car that weighs only 100 pounds more, has more power, more torque, a set up built for road racing, should be able to hold its own against the S2000. As a disclaimer, the NSX is by no means fast by today's standard, but it's definitely a car built for the track with top end speed.
I'm sure the Mugen RR would have no trouble lapping some tracks faster than the NSX just because of newer tire technology.
Not a problem - no where in my post did I say the stock S2000 was faster than the stock NSX (insert whatever model)
I don't need to show you the T/A cars that place in the top category for RWD in Japan every event. The S2000 and rx7 best the nsx many times over. This is not new. The nsx is a great car, I feel the S2000 is a better performer (and gets better once you factor in the cost) and offers a better driving experience. If you disagree with my subjective opinion I can live with that. I won't lose sleep over it.
09-11-2013, 07:50 AM
#15
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I don't need to show you the T/A cars that place in the top category for RWD in Japan every event. The S2000 and rx7 best the nsx many times over. This is not new. The nsx is a great car, I feel the S2000 is a better performer (and gets better once you factor in the cost) and offers a better driving experience. If you disagree with my subjective opinion I can live with that. I won't lose sleep over it.
So many people put the NSX on a pedestal - it was great for what it was in the 90s, then Honda presented the S2000...
09-11-2013, 08:48 AM
#17
Shame we're getting to the point now though where the civic has more power than an S2000
Oh well, I love my S2K regardless 
09-11-2013, 09:22 AM
#18
Not a problem - no where in my post did I say the stock S2000 was faster than the stock NSX (insert whatever model)
I don't need to show you the T/A cars that place in the top category for RWD in Japan every event. The S2000 and rx7 best the nsx many times over. This is not new. The nsx is a great car, I feel the S2000 is a better performer (and gets better once you factor in the cost) and offers a better driving experience. If you disagree with my subjective opinion I can live with that. I won't lose sleep over it.
I don't need to show you the T/A cars that place in the top category for RWD in Japan every event. The S2000 and rx7 best the nsx many times over. This is not new. The nsx is a great car, I feel the S2000 is a better performer (and gets better once you factor in the cost) and offers a better driving experience. If you disagree with my subjective opinion I can live with that. I won't lose sleep over it.
That being said, I won't disagree that the S2000 offers an arguably better experience with the gearbox and convertible top alone. But that is a very subjective argument.
09-11-2013, 10:17 AM
#19
Originally Posted by Sebring AP1' timestamp='1378912689' post='22772645
Not a problem - no where in my post did I say the stock S2000 was faster than the stock NSX (insert whatever model)
I don't need to show you the T/A cars that place in the top category for RWD in Japan every event. The S2000 and rx7 best the nsx many times over. This is not new. The nsx is a great car, I feel the S2000 is a better performer (and gets better once you factor in the cost) and offers a better driving experience. If you disagree with my subjective opinion I can live with that. I won't lose sleep over it.
That being said, I won't disagree that the S2000 offers an arguably better experience with the gearbox and convertible top alone. But that is a very subjective argument.
When I frequent the track I can't recall how rarely I see a genuinely "stock" car. You want to do bolt on basics for S2000 vs NSX? I'll put money on the S2000 everytime.
09-11-2013, 03:26 PM
#20
[quote name='Sebring AP1' timestamp='1378923427'
I think comparing stock cars is a bit of a silly argument. Most enthusiasts don't leave them that way for long anyhow. Especially enthusiasts who track their cars.
When I frequent the track I can't recall how rarely I see a genuinely "stock" car. You want to do bolt on basics for S2000 vs NSX? I'll put money on the S2000 everytime.
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Stating that modified car X is faster than modified car Y is a slippery slope because you can easily build a faster miata with a ton of boost for the price of either car. Without any examples, your statement has no substance and it sounds like you're just pulling information out of thin air.
I don't know how much track experience you have or what events you have attended, but there are plenty of stock cars at the NASA events I've attended. Anyway, don't want to beat a dead horse here. There are already topics on this.
On topic: Turbo Civic would be great.
I think comparing stock cars is a bit of a silly argument. Most enthusiasts don't leave them that way for long anyhow. Especially enthusiasts who track their cars.
When I frequent the track I can't recall how rarely I see a genuinely "stock" car. You want to do bolt on basics for S2000 vs NSX? I'll put money on the S2000 everytime.
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Stating that modified car X is faster than modified car Y is a slippery slope because you can easily build a faster miata with a ton of boost for the price of either car. Without any examples, your statement has no substance and it sounds like you're just pulling information out of thin air.
I don't know how much track experience you have or what events you have attended, but there are plenty of stock cars at the NASA events I've attended. Anyway, don't want to beat a dead horse here. There are already topics on this.
On topic: Turbo Civic would be great.