2014 Camaro Z28
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The design refresh looks good to me. Front looks nice and the rear looks less offensive than the current one. The 500 horse LS-7 is a real gem and while not light, I'm sure the car will be a hoot to drive. It looks like a pretty thorough reworking to me and I think it's a mistake to underestimate it.
That said... $60,000 for a Z-28 camaro is just too much, IMO. That will buy a lightly used Z06 and for most people, that would be the obvious choice.
That said... $60,000 for a Z-28 camaro is just too much, IMO. That will buy a lightly used Z06 and for most people, that would be the obvious choice.
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I love my E90 M3, but would trade it for this beast in a heartbeat if the primary usage would be track days. BMW's more sophisticated power delivery? LOL!
I might even consider one over a Z06, b/c some of us w/ kids like to share the fun of a great car w/ the family. That's one of the main reasons I drive my M3 so much more than my S2000.
That said, it's going to be awfully expensive to buy and feed (consumables) as a track toy. Way beyond what I'd be willing to spend.
I love my E90 M3, but would trade it for this beast in a heartbeat if the primary usage would be track days. BMW's more sophisticated power delivery? LOL!
I might even consider one over a Z06, b/c some of us w/ kids like to share the fun of a great car w/ the family. That's one of the main reasons I drive my M3 so much more than my S2000.
That said, it's going to be awfully expensive to buy and feed (consumables) as a track toy. Way beyond what I'd be willing to spend.
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Chevy finally announced the price - $75K w/ no A/C or stereo. As much as I'd like rear seats, it makes the C7 Z51 seem like a great value by comparison. What do y'all think?
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Fooking absurd even at $50k. $75k is a cynical excercise in removing cash from the wallets of idiots who somehow came into possession of a few dollars. You'd have to either be a fool or just so rich that $75k is nothing to you for this car to make sense. The A/C and stereo delete can't save more than 100 lb if that, practically nothing in the face of nearly 4000 lb. If I were rich and at all into absurdly oversized neo-musclecars, a 1LE with hotcam, an accusump, suspension, and wheels/tires would be the route I'd take. I'd be far too embarrassed to announce to the world what an idiot I was to spend $75k on this absurdity.
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Fooking absurd even at $50k. $75k is a cynical excercise in removing cash from the wallets of idiots who somehow came into possession of a few dollars. You'd have to either be a fool or just so rich that $75k is nothing to you for this car to make sense. The A/C and stereo delete can't save more than 100 lb if that, practically nothing in the face of nearly 4000 lb. If I were rich and at all into absurdly oversized neo-musclecars, a 1LE with hotcam, an accusump, suspension, and wheels/tires would be the route I'd take. I'd be far too embarrassed to announce to the world what an idiot I was to spend $75k on this absurdity.
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Originally Posted by alex s' timestamp='1364428169' post='22433303
[quote name='ZDan' timestamp='1364423584' post='22433129']
300 lb. lighter than 4100 lb. is still PIG heavy. Hopefully they get it right with the 6th gen, this generation is nothing but donor cars to me.
300 lb. lighter than 4100 lb. is still PIG heavy. Hopefully they get it right with the 6th gen, this generation is nothing but donor cars to me.
That's about the weight of the current M3, which seems to do fine despite its heft. I'm interested to see what this can do before I start talking about how terrible it is. At least Chevrolet is trying, which is more than can be said for a lot of Japanese car companies these days.
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You sure about that? I thought the E92 was well into 2700-2800lb range.
<------Knows he can google it but would rather debate based on memory. LOL
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Again, whomever designed the rear end needs shot.. . the tail lights are now from the 70's?? and the hideous amount of black back there is even more offensive than it is on the C7. With all the good looking taillights on other cars out there, you'd think they'd be able to nail this one down.. . So odd how they go away from the previous style lights on the Z/28 but yet implement them on the C7 stingray? Communication breakdown maybe??
GM has again created a looker from the front, and cottage cheese ass from the back.
GM has again created a looker from the front, and cottage cheese ass from the back.
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower' timestamp='1364583787' post='22437528
[quote name='alex s' timestamp='1364428169' post='22433303']
[quote name='ZDan' timestamp='1364423584' post='22433129']
300 lb. lighter than 4100 lb. is still PIG heavy. Hopefully they get it right with the 6th gen, this generation is nothing but donor cars to me.
[quote name='ZDan' timestamp='1364423584' post='22433129']
300 lb. lighter than 4100 lb. is still PIG heavy. Hopefully they get it right with the 6th gen, this generation is nothing but donor cars to me.
That's about the weight of the current M3, which seems to do fine despite its heft. I'm interested to see what this can do before I start talking about how terrible it is. At least Chevrolet is trying, which is more than can be said for a lot of Japanese car companies these days.
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You sure about that? I thought the E92 was well into 2700-2800lb range.
<------Knows he can google it but would rather debate based on memory. LOL
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E90/92 M3 is definitely 3500-3700 lbs.