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Old 08-08-2012, 05:52 AM
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I'd infinitely rather see them get the car below 3000 lb. than add power. Lighter weight is (or should be) the future of performance, as it brings greater efficiency as well. And it's more fun. Win/win/win.

Regarding fuel efficiency, I did a 462 mile tank bringing the 500+hp LS2 RX-7 up from TX, with a 15.9 gallon fill: 29mpg. On a recent trip from Providence to Atlanta, I averaged just over 27mpg for the trip, while averaging 70mph including three ~10-minute stops (only two stops for gas, still arrived in ATL with 5/8 tank).
Imagine what that car (2800 lb., low CdA) would get for mileage with a modern turbo 4-cylinder powerplant...
Old 08-08-2012, 06:18 AM
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These cars are are almost 40K brand new at their current level. More power would push them into the stupid expensive category. Mitsu and Subaru are aware of the aftermarket and it's extremely easy make more power with these cars.
Old 08-08-2012, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ZDan
I'd infinitely rather see them get the car below 3000 lb. than add power. Lighter weight is (or should be) the future of performance, as it brings greater efficiency as well. And it's more fun. Win/win/win.

Regarding fuel efficiency, I did a 462 mile tank bringing the 500+hp LS2 RX-7 up from TX, with a 15.9 gallon fill: 29mpg. On a recent trip from Providence to Atlanta, I averaged just over 27mpg for the trip, while averaging 70mph including three ~10-minute stops (only two stops for gas, still arrived in ATL with 5/8 tank).
Imagine what that car (2800 lb., low CdA) would get for mileage with a modern turbo 4-cylinder powerplant...
Agreed. We can always make more power with aftermarket support. Going lighter is what has really helped my mpg. I swapped out the STi wing+trunk for the WRX wing+trunk and dropped about 20 lbs. I also dropped about 2 pounds per corner with the RPF1's over the stock BBS wheels as well. If I go with an aftermarket catted turbo back exhaust, I could drop another 40 lbs. easily.
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Less weight and twin scroll for better response would be awesome (for Subaru at least).
Old 08-09-2012, 06:52 AM
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I would actually like to see less mechanical and electrical wizardry on these cars. All the selectable differential, yaw control, yada, yada, could disappear. As far as I'm concerned, these are crutches to improve/assist handling in a nose-heavy fwd economy car that wasn't designed to handle. Put the cars on a diet (3800# evo, seriously?), put in a basic stout 4-spider center diff, 6-speed, LSD rear, balanced weight distribution (wagon?), a well sorted suspension, 300hp, and I would consider one of these cars again. Right now, they are just bloated boy racers.
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