2011 Scion tC Sneak Peek
03-29-2010, 09:32 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect,Mar 28 2010, 12:02 PM
Actually, I'm not comparing the tC to sportscars. At the time I had an EP3 civic SI, which on paper was essentially the same kind of car. Fwd, 160hp, etc. Both cars were aimed at the same market, but I will say that the civic road a lot more stiffer benefitting from not having to draw in would be EX buyers.
The steering thing that I'm eluding to is not subjective, the tC turns lock to lock in 3.15 turns vs. 2.7ish for the civics (at almost every trim level). Sound trivial? Ask people who drove STIs vs. EVOs and report back. A lot of people judge turn in impressions (wrongfully) on that fact alone.
Every review I read said the the same thing I said, shifter was smooth and easy, pedals are easy to engage, etc etc. And it is subjective, which I constantly criticise on these boards. Me, I found the shifter effortless but somewhat rubbery, a lil long but on par with its rivals. Steering was a bit light and vague, the weight doesnt increase as you turn in more or at speeds like how civics do, it behaves for better or worse like a corolla/camry.
I spent a good amount of seat time in that car since my roommate at the time had one, and I thought it was a great car. Since then, I drove the current generation civic and found that to be better, and in SI form it wasnt even close.
The steering thing that I'm eluding to is not subjective, the tC turns lock to lock in 3.15 turns vs. 2.7ish for the civics (at almost every trim level). Sound trivial? Ask people who drove STIs vs. EVOs and report back. A lot of people judge turn in impressions (wrongfully) on that fact alone.
Every review I read said the the same thing I said, shifter was smooth and easy, pedals are easy to engage, etc etc. And it is subjective, which I constantly criticise on these boards. Me, I found the shifter effortless but somewhat rubbery, a lil long but on par with its rivals. Steering was a bit light and vague, the weight doesnt increase as you turn in more or at speeds like how civics do, it behaves for better or worse like a corolla/camry.
I spent a good amount of seat time in that car since my roommate at the time had one, and I thought it was a great car. Since then, I drove the current generation civic and found that to be better, and in SI form it wasnt even close.
6yrs ago we did drive your Si for testing. i was impressed with the chassis and shifter but not their wheel and tire set up. typical honda at the time of low unsprung weight.
03-29-2010, 07:38 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by al4t1gbundy,Mar 29 2010, 12:02 PM
Oh Hell ..... 
03-31-2010, 10:11 AM
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now that the car is released i can't breach any agreements. the one area that TM USA and TM Japan debated was the interior design of the car. though the pics are still pre-production interior designers will still be working on the final touches of the interior. expect the gold ball scion interior dimples to end up everywhere.
having spent a good amount of time with the car the seats are fantastic in a S lite like kind of way. steering wheel is very thick and its a nice size when held at 9 and 3. the car is sportier and livelier eventhough final tuning hasn't been set yet which should be done by early summer.
03-31-2010, 02:02 PM
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the front end looks good but the back end looks like crap. My wife had an 08 that we ended up boosting and it was a really fun car to drive. It put out 257whp at 8psi too, not too shabby.