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Old 06-18-2013, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Disgustipated
Originally Posted by Moddiction' timestamp='1371387237' post='22611444
[quote name='Disgustipated' timestamp='1371332153' post='22610739'][quote name='Moddiction' timestamp='1371258845' post='22609657']What's an evo or sti going to destroy a tt rs in? Neither are very fast at all out of the box.
EVO outhandles a TTRS stock vs stock. The ttrs has a garbage Haldex awd system with fwdesque understeer. EVO X has one of the best awd systems around next to the GTR.
Nice! I need to test drive an evo X. The look has been growing on me!
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Evo X is fantastic once modded. Just light bolt-ons + tune = 330-350 whp, E85 tune = 370-390 whp/380-400 wtq... stock turbo. Those things spool like 380+ wtq at 3200 RPM on stock turbo on E85.


Originally Posted by Chris S
Originally Posted by Moddiction' timestamp='1371387237' post='22611444
[quote name='Disgustipated' timestamp='1371332153' post='22610739'][quote name='Moddiction' timestamp='1371258845' post='22609657']What's an evo or sti going to destroy a tt rs in? Neither are very fast at all out of the box.
EVO outhandles a TTRS stock vs stock. The ttrs has a garbage Haldex awd system with fwdesque understeer. EVO X has one of the best awd systems around next to the GTR.
Nice! I need to test drive an evo X. The look has been growing on me![/quote]I drove a lightly modded Evo VIII MR way back when, and it blew my mind. The steering combined the quickness of an AP1 w/ the feel of a Porsche. Unfortunately, my gf at the time (now my wife) was really against it based on the looks. A X would prob. be more do-able since they look a lot nicer IMO.
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Evo 8's and 9's come with understeer-oriented rear diffs from the factory for USDM. They don't have the power-slide, tail-happy diffs of the UK and JDM Evo's. HOWEVER... for under $500 you can mod the Evo's rear diff for RWD-esque oversteer and power sliding. Mine is modded BTW... so much fun. Evo X can oversteer from the factory thanks to S-AYC and oversteer ready rear diff.


Originally Posted by Moddiction
Yeah the new ones seem to be better in all ways. Looks with a drop and some nice wheels look really nice I think! Crazy easy hp gains with them too since they are so rich from the factory. Tune only gains are like 70whp I think
See above. They also gain 4-6 MPG once tuned btw. You can avg 22-24 mpg on 91/93 tuned in an X.


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The biggest challenge is that I'd want a MR w/ the DCT, and it apparently doesn't handle a lot of extra hp well.
As long as your tuner keeps the torque down, you can handle 350 wtq on DCT. I have heard some people modded it to handle 450 wtq. But yeah that trans isn't nearly as good as a solid 5 speed.


Originally Posted by Moddiction
Ah yeah. As fast as the DCT shifts I would rather have a manual evo X. I have heard that trans can't take as much power as the others unfortunately.
5 speed manual is what you'd want for sure, handles 500-600+ whp easily.


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Originally Posted by s2kpdx01' timestamp='1371260361' post='22609679
[quote name='Moddiction' timestamp='1371258845' post='22609657']What's an evo or sti going to destroy a tt rs? Neither are very fast at all out of the box.
driver matters most and i've never met anyone that owns a TT that could drive for shit.
You don't take into account new transmission technology with a simple "D" function or one of multiple pre-programmed computer settings that can all shift better than any human with the best 3-pedal manual. These new dual-clutch transmissions deliver power seamlessly and without interruption and are far "smarter" than you or I; Why do you think it clocks 100km (62mph) in 3.6s with "only" 335bhp? AWD + a smart transmission that's geared perfectly for the car and power output. Show me an Evo, STI, base C6 or C5Z that can do that bone stock, in nearly any weather, consistently and repeatedly with the "average" driver at the helm. Not happening. I can post documented stock numbers for all these cars: C/D TEST RESULTS: TT-RSZero to 60 mph: 3.6 secZero to 100 mph: 9.3 secZero to 130 mph: 17.0 secStreet start, 5–60 mph: 5.2 secStanding ¼-mile: 12.1 sec @ 113 mphTop speed (governor limited): 155 mphBraking, 70–0 mph: 161 ftRoadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.95 gOnly limitation against the follow cars is top speed (governed). And the grip is within a small margin of one another between the following cars, skidpad and slalom:C/D Quote C5Z:Our test car's engine, with just 1400 miles on it, accelerated to 60 mph in 4.3 seconds and covered the quarter-mile in 12.7 seconds at 113 mph. That makes this Z06 half a second quicker than the fastest C5 we've ever tested and quicker than the ZR-1 model that ruled the Corvette roost from 1990 to 1995. Among remotely affordable cars, only the Dodge Viper GTS is quicker.Winner: TTC/D Quote, C6 LS3 (08'):The new Vette runs from 0 to 60 mph in 4.0 seconds and clears the quarter-mile in 12.4 seconds at 116 mph, compared with 4.3 seconds and 12.8 seconds at 109 mph for the 911.Winner: TTI don't even need to mention the EVO or STI, and a C6Z only pulls away from it up top and not by a huge margin.Numbers don't lie, and the people talking shit about lesser cars (the ones mentioned in the last few pages) beating a TT-RS show just how much they (don't) know about current cars. Yes, the car is overpriced. So are a LOT of others. And I don't even like the TT-RS.
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Here comes someone that hasn't driven ANY of these cars and reads magazine numbers like they're the Bible. A stock Evo X will own a TTRS on track, end of story. Do less than $2k in mods on Evo X and it'll have 50-80 whp more than a TT RS LOL. It's $25k less from the factory BTW.
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Haven't driven any of these cars ?? I've driven everything mentioned except a C5Z and TT-RS. It's a dumb idea to make false assumptions about someone you know nothing about. I've owned over 30 sports cars (not all different makes, but multiple examples of certain cars), and more than 10 at one time. Not to mention a few 300-500hp sport sedans. I've also co-driven a relative's Porsche Carrera GT race car that would wipe the floor with any car you've likely ever even been around, street or paddock. And I'm 27 btw, just so you don't confuse me for some old gent who's bench bitching from his easy chair . I guarantee I've driven more high performance cars at HPDE events than 99% of the people on this board. Don't make assumptions you can't back. Let's go for a drive sometime and SEE how much you really know about DRIVING I'm not here to have a pissing contest...

And about the magazine numbers: I bought a Racelogic VBOX logger a long time ago to test real-world against staged testing. The mags are spot on with their numbers in comparison with every car I've owned that they've tested. My post was about numbers, acceleration specifically. C/D and the like are wrong these days? I don't think so. Your argument is invalid.
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You're detracting from the discussion about the Z06 with your talk about your sports car pedigree and how many cars you've driven. This isn't a dick measuring contest.

The TT-RS is a nice car, looks good on paper but not the kind of car to cross shop with a z06 (notice I said nothing bad about the TT-RS).
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Originally Posted by suprmonky73
This isn't a dick measuring contest.
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Originally Posted by suprmonky73
You're detracting from the discussion about the Z06 with your talk about your sports car pedigree and how many cars you've driven. This isn't a dick measuring contest.
Oh cut the gay some slack.

He clearly has vast experiences with sports cars and the only cars he compared are the two that he has never driven...
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^ best thread ever....

Got my first ticket in the z06, god damnit! 60 in a 45, didnt even realize it. $160 total ticket, but im worried about the insurance
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Discuss the Z then and quit bitching about factual test numbers . All I did was respond to someone who questioned Audi about building a car that can do work with a Vette... And now all this? I'm not trying to have a dick measuring contest; I don't find humor in a complete stranger telling me what I have and haven't done, that's all. And yes I compared two cars I've never driven, thats what the mags are for . I have nothing to contribute to this thread, considering I don't own any vintage of Corvette, so I'll be reading from this point on. Have fun all
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I would love to have a track prepped Z06 as a track day toy.
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Originally Posted by TougeS2k
^ best thread ever....

Got my first ticket in the z06, god damnit! 60 in a 45, didnt even realize it. $160 total ticket, but im worried about the insurance
Did you have the HUD turned off? Hard for me not to know how fast I'm going w/ the digital speed beamed right in my field of view. Resisting temptation is the hard part!


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