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'08 MB C63 AMG v '07 Audi RS 4 v '08 BMW M3

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Old 10-27-2007, 10:35 PM
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[QUOTE=cbehney,Oct 27 2007, 09:48 PM]

Probably their actual street numbers will be virtually the same, but even so the C63 will probably still give you more of that rumbling mashing feeling talked about above.

But my point was that a lot of their buyers won't care about actual numbers or handling feel etc.
Old 10-28-2007, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Onehots2k,Oct 27 2007, 08:26 PM
I still disagree with you. I still think its going to boil down to feel. When your dropping this much coin on a performance car its gonna come down to how u feel behind the wheel. Otherwise, why not just get the 335i or C350? I understand that looks is a BIG part of the equation but the whole point of these machines are stealth.

Another thing, I think these cars appeal to different people. It would irritate the piss out of me to only have paddle shifters and not a clutch. I've been around the Benz and BMW crowd for quite some time. Its going to take more than looks to win their customers over. Its the pedigree thats at play too. The M3 nameplate does weigh more than C and its going to take more than overthetop looks to overcome that. Its going to take time.
I agree with you - but only on a particular segment of the market - people that intend to drive these cars hard. Remember, a large number of the people w/ the coin to buy one of these cars aren't even going to exceed the speed limit...it's all about buying the "best" car in the lineup....and they won't give a rats about "feel" in the middle of a high speed turn. Hell, they may not even test drive it aggressively. To those people, I think the tq on the c63 is a huge selling point because you can't help but notice it.
There is also the other factor....underdog. Personally, I'm a fan of the c63 because it is clearly the underdog alternative to the M3. If I rock an M3, I'll be one of many people at work with the same car. If I roll in the c63, it's a totally different story.

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[QUOTE=Iceman1,Oct 28 2007, 01:35 AM]sad to see the day when it almost feels like the commercial side of the legendary ///M3 is riding on its "good looks"
Old 10-28-2007, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CKit,Oct 28 2007, 03:17 AM
It'll be nice to pick one up in four years for $35k... have you seen the resale on the E55 / 63s?!
To be honest the resale of the AMGs is my issue. I have a February delivery allocation for a C63, but I am seriously considering a 997 instead since the Porsche keeps its value so much better.
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Useless factoid:
Looking at C&D factsheets, the C63 accelerates faster and stops quicker than the Audi R8...
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Wow the C63 is just silly fast. Absolutely sick. 3.9 to 60..insanity. 12.3 in the 1/4 at 116 mph? CRAZY!

I think its hilarious that this rag complains of the aggressive nature of the AMG, when they cursed the previous generation M3 for its civility. Most rags love BMWs no matter what. I say the C63 is the new measuring stick in this class. The raw numbers say so.
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Originally Posted by GPMike,Oct 28 2007, 01:25 PM
Wow the C63 is just silly fast. Absolutely sick. 3.9 to 60..insanity. 12.3 in the 1/4 at 116 mph? CRAZY!

I think its hilarious that this rag complains of the aggressive nature of the AMG, when they cursed the previous generation M3 for its civility. Most rags love BMWs no matter what. I say the C63 is the new measuring stick in this class. The raw numbers say so.
It's not just about the raw numbers. Most testers still say the M3 has better handling and connection than the C63.
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[QUOTE=kumainu,Oct 28 2007, 02:07 PM] It's not just about the raw numbers.
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I'll take a C63 please. When are they available?

Isnt the C63 motor restricted. Im guessing a couple boltons should add a decent amount of power.
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Turbo Accord Wagon goes 11.4s at 124mph.

So, um... straight line numbers mean a lot, eh?


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