Ragamuffin S2k is Gone
04-28-2006, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ragamuffin,Apr 28 2006, 11:48 AM
I will get u the pics when available. All I can say is the back end came loose and lost control. I cannot stress how important for correct tires. I did not feel comfortable with mine from the day I bought them. Although they were the correct size, tread design and such is a must when such a purchase is made.
do you mind sharing with us what tires they were, and sizes.
04-28-2006, 10:56 AM
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Glad to hear that you are okay. Give yourself a few days to rest and recover. Your body is probably still in shock. The car is replaceable.
We don't need any more human losses around here...
We don't need any more human losses around here...
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sorry to hear about it.
04-28-2006, 11:12 AM
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Ouch. 
Glad you're OK.
Not meaning to be an armchair QB, but there's an excellent lesson here for others to learn. While I don't know the particulars of this incedent, it's important to remeber something about our car... it's RWD. This means that when the rear end starts to get loose, the worst thing you can do is to lift off the gas or g-d forbid brake. When the rear starts to go, the problem is that you're losing grip with the road. The moment you lift off the gas, you shift the weight of the car from the rear to the middle. This causes the rear to actually have even less grip. If you use the brakes, the weight is transferred to the front, and the rear becomes even less stable!
The thing to do if the rear end starts to go is actually to stay on the gas and countersteer. This should straighten the car out at which point you can immediately brake.
I know this is counter intuitive, (when you start to loose grip, it's really hard to have the balls to give it MORE gas) so it's very tough to have the discipline to do. It's also tough to think of gas when danger is rapidly approaching. Rest assured, it only takes a second to get the car straight, then you can go for full ABS to bring you to a stop.
Most folks also don't realize any of this, so please don't take this as a critique of your driving. (I also don't know your exact circumstances) As said before, cars can be replaced, people can't. I'm glad you're OK.
With all the flipped/wrecked S2ks we've had in the past month, I think this is probably a good subject for the front page. Stay tuned...
Glad you're OK.
Not meaning to be an armchair QB, but there's an excellent lesson here for others to learn. While I don't know the particulars of this incedent, it's important to remeber something about our car... it's RWD. This means that when the rear end starts to get loose, the worst thing you can do is to lift off the gas or g-d forbid brake. When the rear starts to go, the problem is that you're losing grip with the road. The moment you lift off the gas, you shift the weight of the car from the rear to the middle. This causes the rear to actually have even less grip. If you use the brakes, the weight is transferred to the front, and the rear becomes even less stable!
The thing to do if the rear end starts to go is actually to stay on the gas and countersteer. This should straighten the car out at which point you can immediately brake.
I know this is counter intuitive, (when you start to loose grip, it's really hard to have the balls to give it MORE gas) so it's very tough to have the discipline to do. It's also tough to think of gas when danger is rapidly approaching. Rest assured, it only takes a second to get the car straight, then you can go for full ABS to bring you to a stop.
Most folks also don't realize any of this, so please don't take this as a critique of your driving. (I also don't know your exact circumstances) As said before, cars can be replaced, people can't. I'm glad you're OK.
With all the flipped/wrecked S2ks we've had in the past month, I think this is probably a good subject for the front page. Stay tuned...