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Old 05-14-2007, 02:56 PM
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lol, nate beat me.

dans2k just dropped by my work to give me his swaybars in the middle of my post!
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Originally Posted by vonHultgren,May 14 2007, 03:48 PM
That is something I have struggled with for....but it does show his unconditional love for us.

I still think you have to follow his word through life, not just before you croak.
I can understand your questioning this.
Very true about unconditional love.....but man, if I am going to keep a cycle of sinning/repenting, I'd be looking around for a lightening bolt.

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Originally Posted by vonHultgren,May 14 2007, 02:54 PM
Because as evidence in the Garden and other chapters in the book, we can't handle it ourselves as history has suggested.

As a matter of fact that is one of the core principles for being a Christian. We can't solve all of our problems and sins. We reach to him to provide needed outcomes, whether good or bad.
what happens when one prays and pray and sees no results?
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Originally Posted by klee1113,May 14 2007, 03:50 PM
i'd take purgatory over eternity with the devil.
From wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory

JC took one for the original sin part, which opens up your chance to get into heaven by accepting JC, and not committing mortal sins. Purgatory is a cleaning room of sorts
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Originally Posted by Back-cracker,May 14 2007, 03:56 PM
Since I'm not very know. about religions, christians as a whole (all derivitives are anti gay right)?

I'm very interested to learn about this.

BC
Start a thread about it (on another day PLEASE!!!).

We'll see if the discussion can stay on topic and civil .
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Originally Posted by thetz99,May 14 2007, 02:57 PM
From wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory

JC took one for the original sin part, which opens up your chance to get into heaven by accepting JC, and not committing mortal sins. Purgatory is a cleaning room of sorts
"According to the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, Purgatory is the "final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned": "All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven."[1] The doctrine is based on the practice in all the ancient Christian Churches of praying for the dead in the belief that they are thereby assisted."

so its not enough, as a RC, to believe and serve. but you have to be 100% pure? dang, that sucks. might as well do the minimum while your alive, then make up for it in purgatory!
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Originally Posted by i_heart_my_DB8,May 14 2007, 03:48 PM
Priests typically cannot get married. I don't know the justification behind that.





Purgatory is neither Heaven nor Hell.
Many gays go into the priesthood (my friend did as well) either as self-punishment, to try to get "cured" or to hide it........Maybe early priests were gay too, so they made that rule?? I am only partially kidding........


I was with you until the Purgatory part.......So what the Purgatory is it is if not Heaven or Hell???????
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Originally Posted by vonHultgren,May 14 2007, 03:54 PM
Because as evidence in the Garden and other chapters in the book, we can't handle it ourselves as history has suggested.

As a matter of fact that is one of the core principles for being a Christian. We can't solve all of our problems and sins. We reach to him to provide needed outcomes, whether good or bad.
No offense at all, of course, but that sounds a little too close to a cop-out for my taste.

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Originally Posted by Nicotunes,May 14 2007, 03:02 PM
Many gays go into the priesthood (my friend did as well) either as self-punishment, to try to get "cured" or to hide it........Maybe early priests were gay too, so they made that rule?? I am only partially kidding........


I was with you until the Purgatory part.......So what the Purgatory is it is if not Heaven or Hell???????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory


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